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Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:31 pm
by JazzNU
The NFL has been very clear that they will make your life difficult if you don't get vaccinated and I'm very okay with it. No one wants or needs a repeat of last seasons.

There's reporting that 13 teams are over 85%. Not bad, but not great. Over 70% of players have at least one shot. And 2 teams (Washington and Indy) are under 50%.


As was said repeatedly a few weeks ago when ignorance was on display by an NFL player. These fools will take repeated Toradol shots, but have a problem with taking a two-shot vaccine proven to be safe? Height of stupidity.

Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:22 pm
by ponchi101
JazzNU wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:31 pm The NFL has been very clear that they will make your life difficult if you don't get vaccinated and I'm very okay with it. No one wants or needs a repeat of last seasons.

There's reporting that 13 teams are over 85%. Not bad, but not great. Over 70% of players have at least one shot. And 2 teams (Washington and Indy) are under 50%.


As was said repeatedly a few weeks ago when ignorance was on display by an NFL player. These fools will take repeated Toradol shots, but have a problem with taking a two-shot vaccine proven to be safe? Height of stupidity.
It is a frigging business decision, and the players should know it.
And I would go the same way that we were talking about insurance: you test positive for C19, are not vaccinated, and can't play one or two games? No checks for you, buddy.

Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:18 pm
by ti-amie



Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:19 pm
by ptmcmahon
Please let this article be right ...

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/can-rodge ... gotten-743

Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:33 pm
by JazzNU
Don't understand. Seems like they are setting themselves up for internal turmoil.



Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:00 pm
by ponchi101
Sorry, but why? I understand that Peyton is pretty easy to get along with, Eli too. Something else that we should know?

Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:42 pm
by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:00 pm Sorry, but why? I understand that Peyton is pretty easy to get along with, Eli too. Something else that we should know?
Not clear on what you're asking.

Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:13 am
by ponchi101
You are saying that they are setting themselves up for some internal turmoil. ESPN or the Manning Brothers?

Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:42 am
by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:13 am You are saying that they are setting themselves up for some internal turmoil. ESPN or the Manning Brothers?
ESPN. They have a Monday Night Football broadcast team that has been a mess since Mike Tirico left and then when Chuckie bounced, and they're trying to get a crew that works and doesn't get endlessly roasted on Twitter. And they sort of got that after several tries with a fairly boring, but inoffensive crew last year who are returning this year. And then they sign up Peyton and Eli to do a shadow broadcast on the other channel? Great way to sabotage the main broadcast because every network with even a the smallest of NFL property has been trying to get Peyton to do color commentary, he's a draw.

I have no doubt that this is what Peyton wanted, he's the one who can call the shots from A to Z. But man oh man does this feel like you're setting up your main broadcast crew to fail. The only time I can recall simultaneous broadcasts is when they've done Spanish commentary on ESPN2.

Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:23 pm
by ptmcmahon
I'm guessing this is an experiment and if it goes "well" they become the main broadcast team.

Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:03 pm
by JazzNU
ptmcmahon wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:19 pm Please let this article be right ...

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/can-rodge ... gotten-743


Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:05 pm
by JazzNU
^^ The Packers structure works against them here and has during this entire thing. If there was an owner, next to none of this would've transpired.

Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:45 pm
by ti-amie
The NFL is not here for your ish.

Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero

The NFL just informed clubs that if a game cannot be rescheduled during the 18-week season in 2021 due to a COVID outbreak among unvaccinated players, the team with the outbreak will FORFEIT and be credited with a loss for playoff seeding, per sources.

Massive implications.

Here’s more from today’s memo, which also says the team responsible for a canceled game because of an outbreak among unvaccinated players/staff will be responsible for financial losses and subject to potential discipline from the commissioner. Wow.

(See next post)


The league intends to play its entire 272-game schedule over 18 weeks (17 games per club). And this is key:

"We do not anticipate adding a '19th week' to accommodate games that cannot be rescheduled within the current 18 weeks of the regular season."

Play on time or don't play.
Other key competitive aspect of today's memo:

Vaccinated individuals who test positive and are asymptomatic can return to duty after two negative tests 24 hours apart.

Unvaccinated individuals still subject to mandatory 10-day isolation period.

More strong language from today's NFL memo:

"Every club is obligated under the Constitution and Bylaws to have its team ready to play at the scheduled time and place. A failure to do so is deemed conduct detrimental. There is no right to postpone a game."

This is the NFL's strongest step yet to incentivize vaccinations. In essence, vaccination status dictates action:
"If a club cannot play due to a Covid spike in vaccinated individuals, we will attempt to minimize the competitive and economic burden on both participating teams."

Here’s the precise language from today’s NFL memo on what would trigger a forfeit:

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As for the justification for continuing to increase benefits for vaccinated individuals, the NFL cites CDC data and major hospital systems:

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And the biggest penalty of all for players:

"If a game is cancelled and cannot be rescheduled within the current 18-week scheduled due to a Covid outbreak, neither team’s players will receive their weekly paragraph 5 salary."

You read that right: NOBODY GETS PAID.
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Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:46 pm
by ti-amie

Re: Talk about the NFL

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:53 pm
by ponchi101
Well, this might be an interesting precedent, and one that other "industries" may look up to. If you cannot come to work because YOU did not take precautions readily available and at your disposal, YOU don't get paid.

Might be the first time in my life that I think that THE BOTTOM LINE speaking is actually good.