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Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:44 am
by ti-amie


No_Mission_5694

5h ago
Utah Valley University police were right on top of it, grabbing the oldest guy in the crowd and "successfully" getting his pants down
Alarmed-Extension289

1h ago
I heard a lady online telling the story here about them stripping his pants off....WHY exactly? She described his special underwear and everything. (Mormon special underwear)

Is it me or does this investigation already seem chaotic and a bit off. I turned on the BBC as soon as it happened and watched till just now.

Did they arrest, release and then re-arrest one or two separate people?
friendtoallkitties

58m ago
Two people were arrested, and both released. The fun part is that Kash Patel pretty much declared the second guy guilty just an hour or so before he was released.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:46 am
by ti-amie
persephone‬
‪@sirensplight.bsky.social‬
· 10h
Still thinking about the man from Northern Ireland who was detained by ICE for the crime of looking Mexican to them, coupled w the Supreme Court sanctioning racial profiling & I think the next phase of Trumpism will basically be a lot of white ppl learning how tenuous whiteness really is.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:47 am
by ti-amie
Mrs. Betty Bowers‬
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· 3h
Both of the co-founders of Turning Point USA died from things that were preventable, but which they mocked and urged this nation to ignore. Bill Montgomery was killed in 2020 by COVID and Charlie Kirk was killed in 2025 by gun violence.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 3:02 am
by Owendonovan
Thoughts and prayers.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 12:17 am
by ti-amie
'Amateur Hour': FBI Director Stumbles In Charlie Kirk Murder Investigation
Kash Patel wrongly announced they'd caught Kirk's killer, who is still on the loose.
By
Brandi Buchman and Arthur Delaney
Sep 11, 2025, 01:52 PM EDT
|Updated 5 hours ago

After FBI Director Kash Patel incorrectly announced that law enforcement had caught the person responsible for assassinating right-wing commentator Charlie Kirk — a declaration that was quickly, and embarrassingly, walked back — even some of the Trump administration’s biggest cheerleaders were fed up.

Joe Biggs, a Proud Boys leader who helped lead the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol and had his 17-year prison sentence commuted by President Donald Trump after he was convicted of seditious conspiracy, asked why the head of the FBI was “speculating” instead of putting out authoritative information.

“Stop all this click bait (expletive) you keep doing,” Biggs wrote on X, tagging Patel. “It’s unbecoming of the office in which you represent and only proves you were a horrible pick for this position.”

Kyle Seraphin, a right-wing former FBI agent and occasional Patel critic, didn’t hold back, either.

“FBI director (expletive) up and is desperate for a win,” Seraphin wrote. “This is absolutely ridiculous.”

The far-right criticism echoes what Democrats had said about Patel, who became a right-wing entrepreneur and podcaster after serving in the first Trump administration, back when Senate Republicans confirmed him to his position in February.

“After meeting with Mr. Patel, reviewing his record, and questioning him at his hearing, I am convinced that he has neither the experience, the judgment, nor the temperament to lead the FBI,” Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said at the time.

After Kirk was shot in the neck while speaking for his “American Comeback Tour” at Utah Valley University in Orem, chaos erupted. Students ran for their lives while local law enforcement and university police scrambled to contain the area and find the suspect who had fired a fatal gunshot at the 31-year-old executive director of Turning Point USA.

Kirk was shot around 2:20 p.m. Eastern on Wednesday, and by 2:53 p.m. Eastern, Patel had announced that the FBI was monitoring reports of the shooting and promised agents would be on the scene quickly.

Right after Kirk was shot, photos flooded social media of Utah police appearing to arrest an older man from the scene. Utah police would later reveal that the man was a 71-year-old local with a reputation of being a “political gadfly,” according to the Salt Lake Tribune. He was charged with obstruction of justice. A second person of interest was also detained, questioned and released.

Neither man, according to the Utah Department of Public Safety, had any ties to the shooting.

Then, at 6:21 p.m. Eastern, Patel announced on X that the “subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody.”

The post garnered nearly 35 million views on the social media site.

But within minutes of Patel’s declaration on X, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox (R) spoke at a press conference and said only that a “person of interest” had been taken into custody. Utah Public Safety Commissioner Beau Mason told reporters at that same conference that Kirk’s shooter was, in fact, still “at large.”

It was 7:59 p.m. Eastern — a little more than an hour after his first post — when Patel took to X again. And this time, without acknowledging his error in proclaiming that Kirk’s killer was in custody, the FBI director simply stated that a “subject in custody” had been released after being interrogated.

“Our investigation continues and we will continue to release information in interest of transparency,” he wrote.

Patel never clarified whether the person he was referring to was either of the two men who had been questioned, or someone else entirely.

Historically, critical updates in high-profile cases aren’t unveiled scattershot by an FBI director on social media. Updates for an active probe typically come from local police who, oftentimes, will work in partnership with local or regional law enforcement agencies, including regional FBI offices.

“It was amateur hour,” Durbin, the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, which oversees the Justice Department, told HuffPost on Thursday. “He was doing a running commentary. Historically, the FBI keeps its mouth closed until it believes it’s the right time and the right message.”

The FBI and DOJ did not return HuffPost’s requests for comment on Thursday.

At a press conference on Thursday morning in Utah, FBI officials said they believed they had located the weapon used to kill Kirk. They also located “footwear impression, a palm print and forearm imprints for analysis.”


Patel’s stewardship of the FBI had already been called into question on Wednesday when three former senior FBI officials filed a lawsuit alleging they’d been fired by Patel for purely political reasons, including their work prosecuting Jan. 6 rioters. The lawsuit went into detail about how Patel commissioned an especially large “challenge coin” to give subordinates, inscribed with “Ka$h Patel,” and how he had an extensive whiskey and cigar collection in his office.

“Patel not only acted unlawfully but deliberately chose to prioritize politicizing the FBI over protecting the American people,” former FBI officials Brian Driscoll, Steven Jensen and Spencer Evans said in their complaint against Patel and Attorney General Pam Bondi.
The former officials described themselves as exactly the sorts of professionals the FBI needed to counter a complicated public threat. They accused Patel of having “degraded the country’s national security by firing three of the FBI’s most experienced operational leaders, each of them experts in preventing terrorism and reducing violent crime.”


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fbi-dire ... 943c55b032

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 12:57 am
by ti-amie
Seth Abramson

‪@sethabramson.bsky.social‬
Bomb threats against the Maryland General Assembly.

Bomb threats against the Michigan lieutenant governor and his family.

Bomb threats against 5 HBCUs.

Two arrests for violent assaults in Idaho.

In 24 hours.

All Democratic or left-leaning victims.

All suspected MAGA perpetrators.

And that wasn't a full list—not even close.

Bomb threat against the Rhode Island Senate President.

Bomb threat against the Rhode Island Majority Leader.

Bomb threat against the New Mexico Senate Majority Leader.

Once again, all Democratic victims, all suspected MAGA perpetrators.

There's no reason to have a conversation about political violence based in rhetoric rather than data.

I don't need to note that every bomb threat on Election Day in 2024 was a MAGA bomb threat.

I don't need to mention January 6, Paul Pelosi, or the two dead Minnesota Democrats.

Bomb threats against three Oregon State Senators.

A bomb threat against an Everett (MA) City Council member.

A bomb threat against the DNC headquarters in DC.

All this in 24 hours.

Need I go on?

This is what MAGA is after Kirk—exactly the same mob as it was before yesterday.

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Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 1:06 am
by ti-amie
Anna Bower

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The markings that supposedly expressed “transgender ideology” were………..a series of arrows.

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Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 1:10 am
by ti-amie
CNN

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Harvard University says it has started receiving notices that many federal grants halted by the Trump administration will be reinstated after a federal judge ruled that the cuts were illegal.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/11/us/harva ... ce=bluesky

‪Stoned Feminist‬
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· 3h
I wonder how Columbia and Brown are feeling right now.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 1:12 am
by ti-amie

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 1:40 am
by ti-amie
Bruno J. Navarro
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Kash Patel fired the 'legendary' special agent in charge of Utah's FBI divison just a month before she would have led the ongoing manhunt for Charlie Kirk's assassin.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ation.html
‪buzzardsbaycatmom.bsky.social‬
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· 29m
A woman, a woman of color, a smart, capable woman of color and they sacked her. So now, these guys are wandering around in the woods. Kash will use his finely honed investigative skills to find the bad guy, with his able assistant Dan!

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 1:56 am
by ti-amie
Kash Patel questions grow as it's revealed he gutted Utah FBI leadership before Charlie Kirk assassination
By WILL POTTER, US SENIOR NEWS REPORTER

Published: 17:52 EDT, 11 September 2025 | Updated: 21:39 EDT, 11 September 2025

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Kash Patel fired the 'legendary' FBI special agent in charge in Salt Lake City, Mehtab Syed, (pictured) just a month before she would have led the ongoing manhunt for Charlie Kirk's assassin

Kash Patel fired the 'legendary' special agent in charge of Utah's FBI divison just a month before she would have led the ongoing manhunt for Charlie Kirk's assassin.

The special agent in charge in Salt Lake City, Mehtab Syed, was pushed out of the role in August, despite former agents saying she was 'absolutely the best' in the bureau.

'Truly a humble servant leader who treats co-workers like family,' former FBI agent Christopher O’Leary, an MSNBC national security contributor who worked with Syed, told NBC.

'And she’s a legendary case agent who was involved in some of the most significant national security cases of the last two decades,' he added.

Syed was fired just six months after she was appointed in February, with sources telling NBC that the reasons for her sacking were not clear.

Associate Deputy Director J. William Rivers, who works for Patel and Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino, reportedly told Syed that she wasn't a good fit for the office.

Syed was instead offered a lower-level job in the FBI field office in Huntsville, Alabama, but she decided to retire rather than take the demotion following a distinguished career.

She previously held a number of significant FBI roles including head of cyberterrorism and counterterrorism in the Los Angeles field office, a section chief in counterintelligence at FBI headquarters, and assistant legal attaché in Pakistan during the height of the U.S. war against Al Qaeda.

It comes as the sniper's nest used by the assassin who killed Charlie Kirk has been revealed by authorities amid the urgent manhunt for the gunman.

Images released Thursday showed spent bullet casings on a rooftop on the Losee Building, around 200 yards away from where Kirk was speaking to Utah Valley University students at midday Wednesday.

The shooter is believed to have fired a precise shot into Kirk's neck from the perch before jumping from the roof and escaping into a nearby neighborhood.

Images also emerged of a ladder that was found perched on the side of the building, seemingly used by the assassin to make a rapid escape.

Officials also released images of a person of interest being sought in the ongoing manhunt, seen wearing a black t-shirt with a bald eagle flying across an American flag.

The shirt read: 'Land of the Free.... Home of the Brave', and authorities offered a $100,000 reward for any information leading to his arrest.

In a woodland near the shooting, cops recovered a Mauser .30 caliber bolt-action rifle hidden in a towel that may have been dropped as the shooter fled the scene.

Three additional rounds were found loaded in the magazine alongside the spent bullet casing. The weapon and ammunition are now being forensically analyzed by law enforcement at a federal lab for clues that could help identify the shooter or their motive.

In an update to the manhunt on Thursday morning, officials said they found engravings of 'transgender and antifascist ideology.'

A press conference had been scheduled for 2:45pm ET on Thursday, however less than an hour ahead of the planned news conference, the Utah Department of Public Safety cancelled the event, citing 'rapid developments in our investigation.'

The shocking assassination has sparked widespread outrage across the nation, with some on the left seemingly celebrating the horrific shooting that unfolded in front of a crowd of around 3,000 people.

Two suspects were initially captured, however it was later revealed that both were released and were not found to have fired the shot that killed Kirk.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ation.html

Full article at the above link

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:05 am
by ti-amie
‪Phil Lewis‬
‪@phillewis.bsky.social‬
· 47m
NBC News: "Is it your understanding that [Charlie Kirk's shooter] may be close by or still in Utah?"

The commissioner of Utah’s Department of Public Safety: "We have no idea"

video at the link

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Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:05 am
by ti-amie
Mueller, She Wrote

‪@muellershewrote.com‬
1. So they delayed getting this info out to the public so Kash Patel could fly there, stand there like an idiot, and say nothing? So he’s hindering the investigation?

2. If we had better gun laws, we’d have the killer in custody by now. I wonder if MAGA supports 2A rights in that respect.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:19 pm
by Owendonovan
I'm guessing Mormon, at least mildly conservative home, under the thumb of some religious restriction.

Family Member Alerted Officials to Suspect in Charlie Kirk Killing
The 22-year-old suspect, being held on suspicion of aggravated murder, indicated to a relative that he had shot Mr. Kirk, the right-wing activist, on a Utah campus, the authorities said.
Authorities believe the shooter acted alone. Here’s the latest.

A more than 30-hour manhunt for the gunman who shot and killed Charlie Kirk before a crowd of thousands ended late Thursday, more than 250 miles away, officials said, with a phone call from a family friend of the suspect who is now in custody.

Tyler Robinson, 22, is being held in the Utah County Jail on suspicion of aggravated murder and other felonies, according to court records. The authorities identified him Friday as the person that they believe shot Mr. Kirk, and said they believe he acted alone.

The announcement of an arrest capped an intense, multiagency manhunt that began with the grisly assassination of Mr. Kirk at Utah Valley University in Orem on Wednesday afternoon. It included two mistaken announcements by the authorities that they had a suspect in custody, only for those people to be released, before ending in Washington County, Utah.

Gov. Spencer Cox of Utah said in a news conference that a relative of the suspect had contacted a family friend after the shooting. That friend then contacted a sheriff’s office and told officers that the suspect had confessed, or suggested that he had committed the killing.

Through interviews with a relative and a roommate, investigators also learned that the suspect had criticized Mr. Kirk not long before the shooting, Mr. Cox said, and that he had sent messages about needing to “retrieve a rifle from a drop point.”

Here’s what else to know:

Bullet engravings: Investigators said they had found messages inscribed on unfired cartridges alongside a rifle in the woods near campus. The messages suggested familiarity with antifascist symbolism and the irreverent slang of internet memes and role-play communities. One of the casings had the words “Bella ciao,” an apparent reference to an Italian song adopted by the antifascist resistance during World War II. Read more ›

Trump comments: President Trump announced the arrest in an early-morning appearance on “Fox & Friends,” the Fox News television show, and said he had learned about it moments before coming on the air. His comments outpaced Utah officials, who shared more details at a news conference about two hours later. Mr. Trump also blamed the “radical left” for much of the political violence in the country. Read more ›

Final question: The last person to speak to Mr. Kirk before his assassination was a liberal TikToker, who asked Mr. Kirk about mass shootings involving transgender people. The two went back and forth before the shot that killed Mr. Kirk rang out. Read more ›

A bullet casing quoted ‘Bella Ciao,’ an antifascist anthem now popular with video gamers.
The phrase “bella ciao,” which officials said was inscribed on an unfired bullet casing tied to the man accused of killing the conservative activist Charlie Kirk, is likely a reference to a popular Italian folk song with a sprawling cultural history.

The song, “Bella Ciao,” was popularized as an antifascist anthem in Italy after World War II, but in recent years it has become known worldwide thanks to its inclusion in the hit Netflix series “Money Heist” and in video games, including in the first-person shooter video game Far Cry 6.

It has also been remixed by folk singers and EDM producers and sung by soccer fans and protesters around the world.

Sung annually on April 25 as part of Liberation Day, celebrating the end of Benito Mussolini’s fascist dictatorship and the Nazi occupation in Italy, the song’s most widespread version tells the story of a “partisan,” according to English translations, “who died for freedom.” Addressed to a lover, the fighter requests to be buried atop a mountain “under the shade of a beautiful flower.”

According to Gov. Spencer Cox of Utah, the suspect in Mr. Kirk’s assassination, Tyler Robinson, 22, had the lyrical refrain — “oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao” — written on a bullet casing, along with other phrases that seemed to reference internet memes.

The exact origins of the song are disputed, with some historians believing it originated from a melody recorded in 1919 by the klezmer accordionist Mishka Ziganoff. While the original lyrics are thought to reference the hard labor of female rice paddy weeders, the more explicitly political version was solidified in a popular rendition by the Italian-born French actor Yves Montand in the early 1960s.

On Spotify and YouTube, one can find dozens of versions, as performed by the guitarist Marc Ribot and folk singer Tom Waits; the indie singer-songwriter Mitski; the pop artist Becky G; the British anarchist pop group Chumbawamba, and many more.

In recent years, the song has seen renewed popularity thanks to its inclusion in the Spanish crime show “Money Heist,” an international smash on Netflix, as well as a dance music remix by El Profesor and Hugel (93 million views).

Gamers know it thanks to its inclusion in the video game Far Cry 6. (It is also sometimes used on TikTok to score highlights from the game Call of Duty: Warzone.)

“Bella Ciao” has resonated in the real world, as well. It was sung last year by progressive members of the European Parliament at Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary and adopted by protesters in Iran, Ukraine and Italy, where it was also belted from balconies as a show of unity during Covid-19 lockdowns.

Even European soccer fans have adopted the tune, reworking the lyrics to praise their preferred players.

“‘Bella Ciao’ is a ball of yarn interwoven with many threads of various colors,” the Italian folk singer Carlo Pestelli, who wrote a book about the song, has said.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/09/12 ... ws-suspect

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 11:50 pm
by ti-amie
I saw some mentions of "groypers" day of and I had heard the term before. This is the most detailed explanation of the origin of the term and how they've been at war with the late Mr. Kirk's organization.

J. C. Cantwell 🌻
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last night as i was trying to wind down for bed i had a unified theory of what the (expletive) just happened, and i wrote it down, and filed it under "well, i can't talk about this on main without sounding insane until and unless the perp gets caught and is provably a groyper"

anyways, great news! (1/X)

putting this at the *head* of the thread - there are some *really, really solid caveats* about specific fact-claims I made in the replies, a lot of really good sanity-checking and criticism in good faith, and I encourage you to read and consider them as you read the thread

I stand confidently by that I think I am *directionally* correct, but I wanted to at least express gratitude to people willing to step in and clarify points and explicitly endorse that I think that what people have said is super valuable

‪davederosa.bsky.social‬
‪@davederosa.bsky.social‬
· 3h
Given Tyler’s from Utah, inter-right factionalism was always possible. Bummer for Trumpsters if they put the target on Dems and it turns out to be righties. What’s that Alanis lyric, something something “It’s like Night of the Long Knives and all you have is a Spoon”? Anyway, ironic.
the bitch of it for them is charlie kirk WAS a generational talent who was going to become president someday. he was genuinely extremely (expletive) good at his job and he's almost certainly the reason Trump won reëlection


‪one of the big things that happened in the background that a lot of people didn't see was the Groyper Wars - Fuentes and Kirk were beefing, Fuentes controls a bunch of insane white twinks who were intimidating everyone at conservative events

it was a whole thing I can't adequately summarise, but Kirk was the one who, at least for a while, had managed to defuse it - this is why he suddenly tacked hard to the right on immigration and racism, that was calculated.

by kneeling to the groypers, Kirk was - successfully - defusing the tension in the Hitlerjugend, conceding ALL the ground on racism and immigration and, like, channer (expletive), basically, in exchange for being able to position himself as the intellectual heir to Trumpism.

that was his play here. keep up the gadfly act until he could be, like, Vance's chief of staff or something, G-d only knows, but the point is, he was the man who could unite Turning Point and the groypers by knowing what to concede to Fuentes et al. and how to do so

recently, Kirk kept calling for the release of the Epstein Files, even after Trump called him and asked him to stop, and Fuentes has been FURIOUS about it, and won't-someone-rid-me-of-this-meddlesome-priest about it: stochastic terrorism wasn't a "if", at this point, it was a "when".

Kirk thought, i am SURE of it, that if HE was able to get out in front of the Epstein files - he KNEW what was in them, obviously. He knew that there's SOMETHING there that's genuinely, actually, catastrophically explosive

He wanted the (expletive) positionality of being the one within the conservative Trumpist movement to expiate its own sins by throwing the old dying man under the bus and claiming the mantle as the one who Purified The Movement

the promised prince of QAnon, the Guy Who Exposed The Pedophiles, it would not be the Democrats, it would be Charlie Kirk, and he'd be able to use it to win the Groyper Wars forever and marginalise them for good.

the next few seasons of the show were supposed to be about him, and everyone knew it, and then nick fuentes, that poor, stupid, loyal twink, (expletive) beefed it for all of them by killing him. or engaging in stochastic terrorism such that he was killed by one of his followers. the world may never know

and nobody's going to be able to grab the ring - CERTAINLY not Fuentes - because you need to be able to code-switch between Christian Pastor and also Charm The Grandmas and ALSO gutter-racist antisemite Branch Hitlerian Dialect. and nobody is going to be able to do that like he could.

some people have said "oh the billionaires will just decant another one" or install Tim Pool or Hanania or something like that but, I need you to believe me when I say that that is *not how this works*, and Turning Point was the work of decades, and Charlie Kirk was load-bearing for it.

coda, more than a correction:

a solid point here and half of what i feel *least* confident on (the other half is that i think Fuentes *himself* is less personally relevant than when i wrote the thread - but the Groyper War was still between Kirk and Fuentes, and that's *still* the salient fault-line to be examining.)
📚 John McAndrew 🌏🇺🇦
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· 4h
Do you think some MAGA will go after Fuentes now?

And how does Laura Loomer fit into this?
I'm unwilling to make confident predictions about what any sub-factions of MAGA are going to do as a consequence of these actions; I don't think Loomer has the kind of goon squad Fuentes has or once had but she's absolutely... part of this entire (expletive) up ecosystem.

I'm about as confident as i can be at this point that neither Trump himself nor anybody in his court has direct and immediate responsibility for this. people said "false flag" the second it happened and it did not feel that way to me and the more we find out about the perp the more i feel i'm right

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