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Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 2:01 am
by texasniteowl
So, I voted for "it's wide open" because Nadal coming back from the abs and Medvedev not playing much this year (injury earlier then Wimbledon ban). But back to back, Fritz lost and Tsitsipas lost. It's a lot less wide open now.
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:28 am
by ponchi101
With this performance: Khachanov is toast. He has not enough talent to compete against Kyrgios.
Ruud will be blown of court. Berrettini could, if he serves 90%. And he won't.
So, that finalist I say is fairly well set.
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:18 am
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:28 am
With this performance: Khachanov is toast. He has not enough talent to compete against Kyrgios.
Ruud will be blown of court. Berrettini could, if he serves 90%. And he won't.
So, that finalist I say is fairly well set.
I'm gonna give Berrettini a bit more of a chance than that. He has won their only match, in 2019 on grass. Nick is better now (I assume, he has been impressive in the past, too, esp on grass). Berrettini has more firepower than Medvedev. The matchup might be better. I dunno.
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:22 am
by texasniteowl
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:18 am
I'm gonna give Berrettini a bit more of a chance than that. He has won their only match, in 2019 on grass. Nick is better now (I assume, he has been impressive in the past, too, esp on grass). Berrettini has more firepower than Medvedev. The matchup might be better. I dunno.
I agree with you. But I think Kyrgios comes through unless he has a major let down or melt down. I was really impressed that Nick really kept it together and just played well without much drama in the last 2 sets. In fact, most of the drama seemed to be in the first set which was very competitive.
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:36 am
by nelslus
I mean, Nick has had a full history of major let downs and melt downs. Just sayin'.
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:54 am
by ponchi101
And I will give him credit that he has learned to control that. The match against Fritz recently? He just tossed it away.
You know whom I will give some credit? Kokkinakis. He is there for him and, of course, is a peer. As much as he yells at his team, he has the support.
He did not lose Wimby; Novak beat him. But all other matches I have seen of him lately, he has remained in the match (except, again, Vs Fritz)
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:18 am
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote:And I will give him credit that he has learned to control that. The match against Fritz recently? He just tossed it away.
You know whom I will give some credit? Kokkinakis. He is there for him and, of course, is a peer. As much as he yells at his team, he has the support.
He did not lose Wimby; Novak beat him. But all other matches I have seen of him lately, he has remained in the match (except, again, Vs Fritz)
Oh I think Nick lost his cool vs Novak and might have beat him otherwise. But yes on everything else, and I do think Nick will make the final but don’t think he will blow Berrettini away.
Good point about Kokkinamis.
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Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:53 am
by jazzyg
Berrettini is not playing particularly well, but I give him a shot to beat Kyrgios if they meet in the semis. Kyrgios gets frustrated when he can't get serves back into play, and he won't get many of Berrettini's first serves back.
Berrettini also is a slam stalwart, with his last four losses to Djokovic in four sets, Djokovic in four sets, Djokovic in four sets and Nadal in four sets. I'd say Kyrgios is playing as well as those two guys right now, though, and would pick him in four sets.
On the other side, I had Nadal and Alcaraz in the semis before the tournament started and will stick with that, although the way Sinner played last night, I could easily see him getting the trifecta against Alcaraz (wins on grass, clay and hard courts this summer) if they meet in the quarters. Tiafoe can push Nadal, too, and maybe even beat him if Nadal's ab injury returns.
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:24 am
by Deuce
Ruud will beat Berrettini, thus rendering all discussion about Kyrgios - Berrettini irrelevant.
I also think Ruud has a very good chance of beating Kyrgios.
I do think Kyrgios will get by Khachanov, though.
The rejuvenated/resurrected Cilic also has a good chance of beating Alcaraz.
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:25 am
by skatingfan
And we will have a first time winner on the men's side with Cilic being eliminated.
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:50 pm
by ti-amie
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:53 pm
by ti-amie
Of the 8, now 7 men remaining two put me to sleep every time.
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:54 pm
by Suliso
I bet one is Ruud, but the other?
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:59 pm
by ti-amie
Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:54 pm
I bet one is Ruud, but the other?
Sinner
Re: '22 USO Mens Draw & Discussion
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:03 pm
by nelslus
ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:59 pm
Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:54 pm
I bet one is Ruud, but the other?
Sinner
Too late to include Rublev and Khachanov? (I actually can enjoy Khachanov's game. It's just- hey, I respect that silver medal and all. But, he ain't gonna win anything big, so his prospects bore me.)