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Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:17 am
by ponchi101
Because they are admitting that Rune is so good right now, compared to the rest of this field, that he still gets the #1 seed? :confused:

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:05 am
by 3mlm
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:08 pm We are tennis fans here, and I can only name Musseti, Draper and Nakashima. The other 5 I can't tell.
Before looking it up, I could recognize Musetti, Draper, Nakashima, Tseng and Lehecka, but not the rest.

From left to right: Francesco Passaro, Chun-Hsin Tseng, Brandon Nakashima, Lorenzo Musetti, Jack Draper, Jiri Lehecka, Dominic Stricker and Matteo Arnaldi.

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:15 pm
by JazzNU
Re: Seeding

This is about how late Rune's withdraw is in the proceedings. So everything was ready to go when he became an alternate for the ATP Finals. I don't believe he gets a bonus for being #1, he's not the true #1 qualifier, so that doesn't seem like it would be a thing.

Last year, Sinner and FAA both qualified as the #1 and #2 players for the NextGen, but they withdrew ahead of time (I think Sinner was an ATP Finals alternate and ended up playing if memory serves). And in 2019, Tsitsipas qualified for the ATP Finals and withdrew from NextGen ahead of time. This year, Alcaraz and Sinner both qualified for NextGen, but Alcaraz qualified for ATP Finals long ago and withdrew, and Sinner withdrew early.

Rune is the only player that has caused this strange seeding among all that I've just mentioned, the other years had Seeds #1-8, so it has to be about the lateness of the withdraw. The groups were already drawn when he withdrew on Sunday, and the alternate went into Rune's spot in his designated group. So that's the difference and why they went with this. It's strange, but hopefully makes more sense.

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:33 pm
by ti-amie
Wednesday, November 09, 2022 Day 2

Centre Court Starts At 2:00 Pm

F.Passaro - Loser of B.Nakashima vs M.Arnaldi
Not Before 3:00 Pm
J.Lehecka - Winner of B.Nakashima vs M.Arnaldi
Not Before 7:30 Pm
C H.Tseng - Loser of J.Draper vs D.Stricker
Followed By
L.Musetti - Winner of J.Draper vs D.Stricker

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:32 pm
by JazzNU
I don't understand why they still have this gimmicky scoring. Make it a best of 3 regular scored sets. 10 point match tiebreak in the 3rd.

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:53 pm
by Deuce
As they are playing the game of tennis, they should use some form of real tennis scoring.
2 out of 3 regular tennis sets, with a tiebreak at 6-6 in each set. Period.

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:26 pm
by ponchi101
JazzNU wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:32 pm I don't understand why they still have this gimmicky scoring. Make it a best of 3 regular scored sets. 10 point match tiebreak in the 3rd.
At the very least, get rid of the NO AD.
My main peeve in tennis.

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:08 am
by ti-amie
Thursday, November 10, 2022 Day 3

Centre Court Starts At 2:00 Pm
RR
(9) Matteo Arnaldi VS (5) Jiri Lehecka
Not Before 3:00 Pm
RR
(4) Brandon Nakashima VS (8) Francesco Passaro
Not Before 7:30 Pm
RR
(6) Chun-Hsin Tseng VS (7) Dominic Stricker
Followed By
RR
(2) Lorenzo Musetti VS (3) Jack Draper

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:37 pm
by JazzNU
Musetti getting his hat handed to him by Draper. Musetti may have injured himself, but that was a set and a break down into this drubbing.

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:43 pm
by skatingfan
3 Italians qualify, and looks like non will reach the semis.

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:50 pm
by JazzNU
I have never heard of the two Italians not named Musetti before this week.

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:09 pm
by ponchi101
Well, other than Musetti, they are ranked very low and made it in because of Carlitos and Holgër "graduated" already.

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:10 pm
by ti-amie

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:17 pm
by ponchi101
These two matches should be played under a regular format. At a minimum.
The experiment has been done. I have yet to see one person that likes this format, or the format being adopted by other events. So, drop it.

Re: '22 Next Gen Finals Milan 11/8 - 11/12

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:21 pm
by skatingfan
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:09 pm Well, other than Musetti, they are ranked very low and made it in because of Carlitos and Holgër "graduated" already.
The same is true for Stricker, and he made the semis.