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Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:35 pm
by Deuce
Felix - Medvedev was a non-event. Medvedev won easily - Felix was only in it up to 2-2 in the 1st.

Inexplicably, the ATP telecast of the match had the players and score (shown in the bottom left corner of the screen) as 'Auger-Aliassime - DIMITROV' for the entire first game of the match :roll:.
This is the ATP controlled telecast!

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:35 pm
by mick1303
ti-amie wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:08 pm
This goes to show that ELO has a serious flaw when applying it to tennis. On the surface Sinner lost and then won and they are 1-1 this year. But in reality the weight of the slam encounter dwarfs the regular tour match.

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:52 pm
by Deuce
Indeed, Sinner is playing this draw 'backwards'...
Tsitsipas... then Wawrinka... then the winner of Griekspoor and Brouwer.

He's making short work of Wawrinka now...

Good to see you, Mick. I hope things are as well as they can be where you are.

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:45 am
by ti-amie
Saturday, February 18, 2023 Day 8

Centre Court Starts At 10:30 Am

Wheelchair Event

1:00 Pm
SF
Kevin Krawietz/Tim Puetz VS Rohan Bopanna/Matthew Ebden
Not Before 3:00 Pm
SF
(6) Daniil Medvedev VS Grigor Dimitrov
Not Before 7:30 Pm
SF
Jannik Sinner VS (WC) Tallon Griekspoor
Followed By
SF
(3) Ivan Dodig/Austin Krajicek VS (Q) Sander Gille/Joran Vliegen

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:44 pm
by ashkor87
So a finals between Sinner and Med then?

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:17 pm
by ponchi101
Possibly. But I think Griekspoor may have a bit more to say than we expect.

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:06 pm
by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:17 pm Possibly. But I think Griekspoor may have a bit more to say than we expect.
Griekspoor played a great match. I haven't watched him more than a few times, but this was a step above what I've seen from him in the past. We'll have to see if he can summon the same performances against top players when he's not in the Netherlands, but seems like there's reason to be hopeful about him.

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:14 pm
by ashkor87
I have seen him in Pune, hardly the Sinner class

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:12 am
by Sinner Fan
The Jannik and Daniil match will be very good match. Jannik has to get on fast start and play his backhand strengths. Jannik has consistent first serve but not very explosive first serve. He must play strong baseline game.

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:22 am
by ponchi101
I say he has more power than Daniil, except on the serve. I don't know if he has more speed.
H2H is 4-0 Daniil. Not a good omen.

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:12 am
by ti-amie
Sunday, February 19, 2023 Day 9

Centre Court Starts At 1:00 Pm


F
Rohan Bopanna/Matthew Ebden VS (3) Ivan Dodig/Austin Krajicek
Not Before 3:30 Pm
F
Jannik Sinner VS (6) Daniil Medvedev

Court 2 Starts At 11:30 Am / Wheelchair Event

F
(1) Alfie Hewett VS Martin De La Puente

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:54 am
by skatingfan
Sinner Fan wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:12 am The Jannik and Daniil match will be very good match. Jannik has to get on fast start and play his backhand strengths. Jannik has consistent first serve but not very explosive first serve. He must play strong baseline game.
Against Medvedev it will be his ability to move forward, take the ball out of the air, and keep Medvedev out of the middle of the court that will determine who wins the match. If Sinner is too content to rally from the baseline it will be advantage Medvedev.

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:26 am
by Suliso
Medvedev is a favorite for sure, but then again Daniil has been moving backwards recently and Jannik forwards. How much forwards will be more obvious after this match.

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:36 pm
by Sinner Fan
skatingfan wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:54 am
Sinner Fan wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:12 am The Jannik and Daniil match will be very good match. Jannik has to get on fast start and play his backhand strengths. Jannik has consistent first serve but not very explosive first serve. He must play strong baseline game.
Against Medvedev it will be his ability to move forward, take the ball out of the air, and keep Medvedev out of the middle of the court that will determine who wins the match. If Sinner is too content to rally from the baseline it will be advantage Medvedev.
I still think Jannik strength lie at his baseline game. I do understand taking Medvedev out of middle of court will be to his advantage too. Daniil also is very strong mental player so Jannik getting on top is important.

Re: ATP 500 Rotterdam 2/13 - 2/19 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:38 pm
by Sinner Fan
Suliso wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:26 am Medvedev is a favorite for sure, but then again Daniil has been moving backwards recently and Jannik forwards. How much forwards will be more obvious after this match.
I think Daniil is favourite and can play well on any surface it seem. Jannik need to get early break and get up in match and start well.