Talk About Tennis 2.0

ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:26 am I don't think Jabeur is over her injury.

Didn't she win Charleston After? Or is it a subsequent injury?

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:31 am Didn't she win Charleston After? Or is it a subsequent injury?

I think she won in Charleston in spite of the injury. She's clearly dealing with something, but can't seem to decide whether she should rest or play thru it.

Apparently her brother is getting married around now, so presumably she is otherwise engaged..after the French, she said she is playing Berlin and Eastbourne..she did play berlin

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:23 am Am a bit puzzled by Jabeur..is she not recovered from that injury? She seemed well enough at Charleston..
Sinner seems to be injured now..hope it is not serious..he has a nonzero chance of winning the whole thing...most players don't..

Jabeur might not be over that terrible loss to BHM at the French. I still think she'll do well at Wimbledon and maybe win it.

ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:01 pm I'll buck the trend and go with Carlitos 75% depending on his draw.
Fritz could go deep but making the final/winning 25%
Sinner 10%

As for the women I'll take the field 80%

I'll take the field over Iga, too.

Can't wait to see how Muchova follows up RG. Jabeur will be tough again. BHM loves the grass. Kvitova might be in the mix. I expect Sabalenka to make a deep run - I know you were concerned by how she lost to Muchova, but Sabalenka tends to bounce back after adversity. So yeah, field it is for me.

Novak 97%. Can't see anyone touching him with his current level of motivation and fitness.

No one thinks Kyrgios repeats?

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:54 pm

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:48 pm Main reason I am discounting Saba a bit is she didn't appear to have the 'champion' mentality against Muchova...I thought she had it at the AO but seemed to have lost it again

Wait. ONE MATCH, and we are sending her back again to the "she is mentally fragile" department? She won the Aussie and Madrid, reached finals at Stuttgart and IW, and made the semis at the French, plus she is leading the race by a good 500 points.
Isn't that a bit too much of "What have you done lately for me?"

Yes, too harsh. Sabalenka will probably never live down here earlier reputation. I wouldn't be surprised if she wins W.

meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:09 pm ...

I'll take the field over Iga, too.

Can't wait to see how Muchova follows up RG. Jabeur will be tough again. BHM loves the grass. Kvitova might be in the mix. I expect Sabalenka to make a deep run - I know you were concerned by how she lost to Muchova, but Sabalenka tends to bounce back after adversity. So yeah, field it is for me.

Novak 97%. Can't see anyone touching him with his current level of motivation and fitness.

No one thinks Kyrgios repeats?

I am very surprised that Muchova is not playing in any warm ups; she must obviously be training but no real time on grass.... I don't know.

I don't even think Kyrgios will play. His statements as of late seem to indicate that he is going through a lot.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:35 pm

meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:09 pm ...

I'll take the field over Iga, too.

Can't wait to see how Muchova follows up RG. Jabeur will be tough again. BHM loves the grass. Kvitova might be in the mix. I expect Sabalenka to make a deep run - I know you were concerned by how she lost to Muchova, but Sabalenka tends to bounce back after adversity. So yeah, field it is for me.

Novak 97%. Can't see anyone touching him with his current level of motivation and fitness.

No one thinks Kyrgios repeats?

I am very surprised that Muchova is not playing in any warm ups; she must obviously be training but no real time on grass.... I don't know.

I don't even think Kyrgios will play. His statements as of late seem to indicate that he is going through a lot.

He played a warm-up, though. Netfilx might require him to play to be in the next season of Break Point. All the stuff he's saying now is promo for Break Point, I think.

If all he is saying is just promotion:
If it is true, and it is for promotion, I can't see how such a dark tale can promote the sport (or even himself).
If it is a lie, that would be very low.

I don't know. Tales about cutting yourself are very grim.

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I had pointed this out earlier...among women, ar least, one thing common to all Wimbledon champions is- they had either won a major already or won a major subsequently...the last one-time champion was Bartoli. It takes class to win Wimbledon..only a Tier1 player can do it..so history does not offer much hope to Ms. other! Of course, Rybakina did surprise a lot of people last year, but they should not have been..Rybakina's class was evident much earlier. And, of course, we can certainly expect her to win some major or the other, again

The men..well, it has been all Big 4 anyway.

Revised probabilities-
Men
Djokovic 65%
Alcaraz 30%
The field 5%

Women

Rybakina 45%
Kvitova 25%
Sabakenka 10%
Muchova 10%
Jabeur 5%
swiatek 4%
Field 1%

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:18 pm If all he is saying is just promotion:
If it is true, and it is for promotion, I can't see how such a dark tale can promote the sport (or even himself).
If it is a lie, that would be very low.

I don't know. Tales about cutting yourself are very grim.

It's true, but it was a few years ago, right? I think he said 2019 when he was cutting, doing drugs, and went to rehab in London. The reason he's talking about it now is because he talks about it in the new Break Point episodes. I don't think it means he's in that state now. He might be, but that wasn't my understanding.

meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 12:51 am

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:18 pm If all he is saying is just promotion:
If it is true, and it is for promotion, I can't see how such a dark tale can promote the sport (or even himself).
If it is a lie, that would be very low.

I don't know. Tales about cutting yourself are very grim.

It's true, but it was a few years ago, right? I think he said 2019 when he was cutting, doing drugs, and went to rehab in London. The reason he's talking about it now is because he talks about it in the new Break Point episodes. I don't think it means he's in that state now. He might be, but that wasn't my understanding.

Ok, I thought it was the other way around. I felt that he is currently going through some stuff.
Hope he has recovered, and that you are correct.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 12:50 am Revised probabilities-
Men
Djokovic 65%
Alcaraz 30%
The field 5%

Women

Rybakina 45%
Kvitova 25%
Sabakenka 10%
Muchova 10%
Jabeur 5%
swiatek 4%
Field 1%

Men
Djokovic : 80%
Alcaraz : 5%
Field 15%

Women:
Rybakina 20%
Sabalenka 20%
Swiatek 20%
Kvitova 5%
Field 35%