Re: WTA 1000 Guadalajara 9/17 - 9/23 2023
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:17 am
Guadalajara is presumably like te hardcourt version of Madrid.. court not especially fast but ball flying because of altitude..? must be hard on the lungs too..
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There’s no Big Anything in the WTA.ashkor87 wrote:Maybe time to talk about the Big 4. Coco has done enough to be included.. though I would want to see one more big result.. 1000 or YEC....
The bolded part is spot on.ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:18 pm Only part I disagree with Megan is that Iga and Sabalenka will NOT continue to dominate, because nobody is dominating anything in the WTA. We had 4 Slam winners this year, three of them first timers, and seven different finalists, 4 of them first timers.
We have had 10 new winners in the last 15 slams.
If you don' like parity, the WTA is not for you. And in January, with Osaka coming back just expect one more option in the mix. She will be competitive, but I doubt it will be an automatic domination from her.
As Megan says: there is no Big Anything in the WTA. Just a lot of evenly matches players.
Big Something requires a few years of dominance, I think. Iga can still get there, Sabalenka is getting there. But we shouldn't turn to that phrase lightly. The ATP has a Big 2 right now, I guess.ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:42 pmThe bolded part is spot on.ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:18 pm Only part I disagree with Megan is that Iga and Sabalenka will NOT continue to dominate, because nobody is dominating anything in the WTA. We had 4 Slam winners this year, three of them first timers, and seven different finalists, 4 of them first timers.
We have had 10 new winners in the last 15 slams.
If you don' like parity, the WTA is not for you. And in January, with Osaka coming back just expect one more option in the mix. She will be competitive, but I doubt it will be an automatic domination from her.
As Megan says: there is no Big Anything in the WTA. Just a lot of evenly matches players.
And Megan is right. There is no big anything in the WTA.
And only 2 of them were byes! Unseeded American Elvina Kalieva, ranked #182, got a first-round bye - I assume she is a lucky loser for Haddad Mia. The luckiest... $17.000 and 60 points for losing the right match. Domi Schuurs beat her in the last round of qualifying, drew Trevisan, and lost 0 and 2. Kalieva's match vs Townsend was suspended last night with TT up a set and it's 5-5 in the second. If Kalieva comes back and wins, she will go from $7,600 and 30 points in qualifying to $31,000 and 105 points for R3.
I think you've got ATP points confused with the WTA. For losing in final round of qualifying Kalieva got 20 points, and if she loses in the opening match she'll get an additional 10 points, and if she wins she gets an additional 120 points.meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:43 pm And only 2 of them were byes! Unseeded American Elvina Kalieva, ranked #182, got a first-round bye - I assume she is a lucky loser for Haddad Mia. The luckiest... $17.000 and 60 points for losing the right match. Domi Schuurs beat her in the last round of qualifying, drew Trevisan, and lost 0 and 2. Kalieva's match vs Townsend was suspended last night with TT up a set and it's 5-5 in the second. If Kalieva comes back and wins, she will go from $7,600 and 30 points in qualifying to $31,000 and 105 points for R3.
You're right about 20 points for losing in the final round of qualifying. But for the main draw, R1 losers get 1 additional point and R2 losers get 60. That's per the Guadalajara draw sheet. She got a bye into R2 because she took BHM's spot in the draw, and she had a bye. So does a ll who gets a bye automatically get R2 prize money and points, or do they get R1 (assuming they lose their R2 match)?skatingfan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:52 amI think you've got ATP points confused with the WTA. For losing in final round of qualifying Kalieva got 20 points, and if she loses in the opening match she'll get an additional 10 points, and if she wins she gets an additional 120 points.meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:43 pm And only 2 of them were byes! Unseeded American Elvina Kalieva, ranked #182, got a first-round bye - I assume she is a lucky loser for Haddad Mia. The luckiest... $17.000 and 60 points for losing the right match. Domi Schuurs beat her in the last round of qualifying, drew Trevisan, and lost 0 and 2. Kalieva's match vs Townsend was suspended last night with TT up a set and it's 5-5 in the second. If Kalieva comes back and wins, she will go from $7,600 and 30 points in qualifying to $31,000 and 105 points for R3.
Sorry, I was getting mandatory 1000, and non-mandatory 1000 events confused. The WTA really tries to make these things difficult.meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:18 am You're right about 20 points for losing in the final round of qualifying. But for the main draw, R1 losers get 1 additional point and R2 losers get 60. That's per the Guadalajara draw sheet. She got a bye into R2 because she took BHM's spot in the draw, and she had a bye. So does a ll who gets a bye automatically get R2 prize money and points, or do they get R1 (assuming they lose their R2 match)?