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Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:10 pm
by ti-amie
The deleted post was showing how many seeds are now out of this event.

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:52 am
by ti-amie
Friday, November 03, 2023 Day 7

Court Central Starts At 2:00 Pm

(11) Hubert Hurkacz
VS Grigor Dimitrov
Followed By
(7) Stefanos Tsitsipas
VS (16) Karen Khachanov
Not Before 7:30 Pm
(1) Novak Djokovic
VS (6) Holger Rune
Not Before 8:30 Pm
(13) Alex de Minaur
VS (5) Andrey Rublev

Court 1 Starts At 2:00 Pm

(3) Rohan Bopanna/Matthew Ebden
VS (5) Marcel Granollers/Horacio Zeballos
Followed By
(1) Ivan Dodig/Austin Krajicek
VS Harri Heliovaara/Mate Pavic
Followed By
Nathaniel Lammons/Jackson Withrow VS (4) Rajeev Ram/Joe Salisbury
Followed By
(7) Santiago Gonzalez/Edouard Roger-Vasselin
VS (2) Wesley Koolhof/Neal Skupski

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:42 am
by ashkor87
Sinner refused to play his next match after his match ended at 4 am or some such ungodly hour. Good for him! More players need to stand up the crass, greedy, unfeeling creatures who run tournaments.

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:47 pm
by ponchi101
What is the solution? Because in tennis, you don't know how long will the match before yours last. 1 hour, straight win for somebody, or 3:30 for two other people.
This is not the NBA or the NFL, with a clock game. In tennis, you walk out there not knowing how long it will take. And hard to change that unless we go to no-ad scoring (and we know how that goes).

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:56 pm
by Fastbackss
They could have put him as the late match again. I haven't seen a good reason published yet as to why they couldn't.

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:36 pm
by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:47 pm What is the solution? Because in tennis, you don't know how long will the match before yours last. 1 hour, straight win for somebody, or 3:30 for two other people.
This is not the NBA or the NFL, with a clock game. In tennis, you walk out there not knowing how long it will take. And hard to change that unless we go to no-ad scoring (and we know how that goes).
the solution is obvious - dont start matches after a certain time - push them to the next day.

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:11 pm
by Fastbackss
Or as Brad Gilbert said, move to another court (that was open).

I can't find it now but Stan wawrinka offered a similar complaint although it was singles to doubles

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:47 pm
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:36 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:47 pm What is the solution? Because in tennis, you don't know how long will the match before yours last. 1 hour, straight win for somebody, or 3:30 for two other people.
This is not the NBA or the NFL, with a clock game. In tennis, you walk out there not knowing how long it will take. And hard to change that unless we go to no-ad scoring (and we know how that goes).
the solution is obvious - dont start matches after a certain time - push them to the next day.
At some point, the player would havre to pay twice a day to catch up, then, once a one-week event gets to the point where they play every day. Late the next day is the best they can do and still have the final on Sunday.

Thyey should have put Sinner last on Cneter or the other court. They loaded up Center with 6 matches and only had 4 on the smaller court,

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:04 am
by ashkor87
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:47 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:36 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:47 pm What is the solution? Because in tennis, you don't know how long will the match before yours last. 1 hour, straight win for somebody, or 3:30 for two other people.
This is not the NBA or the NFL, with a clock game. In tennis, you walk out there not knowing how long it will take. And hard to change that unless we go to no-ad scoring (and we know how that goes).
the solution is obvious - dont start matches after a certain time - push them to the next day.
At some point, the player would havre to pay twice a day to catch up, then, once a one-week event gets to the point where they play every day. Late the next day is the best they can do and still have the final on Sunday.

Thyey should have put Sinner last on Cneter or the other court. They loaded up Center with 6 matches and only had 4 on the smaller court,
They need to manage buffers better .I have a separate post on that

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:40 pm
by ti-amie

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:47 pm
by ti-amie
Sunday, November 05, 2023 Day 9

Court Central Starts At 12:30 Pm


F
(3) Rohan Bopanna/Matthew Ebden VS Rajeev Ram/Joe Salisbury Or Santiago Gonzalez/Edouard Roger-Vasselin
Not Before 3:00 Pm
F
(1) Novak Djokovic VS Grigor Dimitrov

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:50 pm
by ti-amie




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Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:52 pm
by ti-amie



Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:55 pm
by Fastbackss
Ben Rothenberg pointed out that save for Monte Carlo Djokovic has won every M1000 or Grand Slam 3 or more times

Re: ATP M1000 Paris Bercy 10/30 - 11/05 2023

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:01 am
by skatingfan
Fastbackss wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:55 pm Ben Rothenberg pointed out that save for Monte Carlo Djokovic has won every M1000 or Grand Slam 3 or more times
Monte Carlo is a tournament that Djokovic plays most years, but he hasn't had much success in recent years.