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Amazing stats!!

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:55 am what accounts for Djokovic's poor performance at MC? (he has won it 'only' twice! - everything else at least three time)..
could it be that he is a champion on all surfaces so always took hard courts seriously too - and had just completed a hard couts swing, usually, before coming to MC - maybe a bit tired, maybe a bit unused to clay? Monte Carlo was always the first clay court event.. this year has been a different path for him, maybe it will make him more successful here! Threepeat?!

But the previous 3 years he's come into Monte Carlo having not played the sunshine double, and still lost early - 2-3 record in those 3 events.

true.

mick1303 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:47 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:55 am what accounts for Djokovic's poor performance at MC? (he has won it 'only' twice! - everything else at least three time)..
could it be that he is a champion on all surfaces so always took hard courts seriously too - and had just completed a hard couts swing, usually, before coming to MC - maybe a bit tired, maybe a bit unused to clay? Monte Carlo was always the first clay court event.. this year has been a different path for him, maybe it will make him more successful here! Threepeat?!

Could be partially that. Could be that MC is the slowest of all clay masters.

from what I could see, the court is pretty fast, for a clay court.. even the speed ratings, though maybe not current, suggest MC is the fastest of the clay events:
speed ratings:
Monte Carlo 24.9 (IW was 27.4)
Rome 22
Roland Garros 21
Madrid 20.9 (but the altitude makes the ball fly rapidly through the air)

atlpam wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:27 pm

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:55 am what accounts for Djokovic's poor performance at MC? (he has won it 'only' twice! - everything else at least three time)..
could it be that he is a champion on all surfaces so always took hard courts seriously too - and had just completed a hard couts swing, usually, before coming to MC - maybe a bit tired, maybe a bit unused to clay? Monte Carlo was always the first clay court event.. this year has been a different path for him, maybe it will make him more successful here! Threepeat?!

Rafael Nadal

The casino?

Thu, 11 April, 2024 (Day 6)

Court Rainier III
Starts at 11:00 am

K. Khachanov (15) Vs (4) D. Medvedev
Not Before 12:00 noon / TBF 6/3 2/1
H. Rune (7) Vs (Q) S. Nagal
Followed By
N. Djokovic (1) Vs L. Musetti
Followed By
J. Struff Vs (2) J. Sinner
Followed By
H. Hurkacz (10) Vs (8) C. Ruud

Court des Princes
Starts at 11:00 am

A. de Minaur (11) Vs A. Popyrin
Not Before 12:00 noon / TBF 4/6 1/2
M. Kecmanovic Vs (9) G. Dimitrov
Followed By
A. Zverev (5) Vs (12) S. Tsitsipas
Followed By / After suitable rest
H. Rune Or S. Nagal Vs M. Kecmanovic Or G. Dimitrov
Followed By
(LL) Vs (14) U. Humbert

Court 2
Starts at 12:00

S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori Vs (8) M. Gonzalez/A. Molteni
Followed By
N. Mahut/E. Roger-Vasselin Vs (WC) R. Arneodo/S. Weissborn
Followed By / After suitable rest TBF 1/2
F. Cerundolo/T. Etcheverry Vs (Alt) M. Melo/A. Zverev
Followed By / TBA
R. Ram/J. Salisbury (4) Vs F. Cerundolo/T. Etcheverry Or M. Melo/A. Zverev

I think he switches to Russian at the end?

The edited but longer version.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:56 pm

mick1303 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:47 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:55 am what accounts for Djokovic's poor performance at MC? (he has won it 'only' twice! - everything else at least three time)..
could it be that he is a champion on all surfaces so always took hard courts seriously too - and had just completed a hard couts swing, usually, before coming to MC - maybe a bit tired, maybe a bit unused to clay? Monte Carlo was always the first clay court event.. this year has been a different path for him, maybe it will make him more successful here! Threepeat?!

Could be partially that. Could be that MC is the slowest of all clay masters.

from what I could see, the court is pretty fast, for a clay court.. even the speed ratings, though maybe not current, suggest MC is the fastest of the clay events:
speed ratings:
Monte Carlo 24.9 (IW was 27.4)
Rome 22
Roland Garros 21
Madrid 20.9 (but the altitude makes the ball fly rapidly through the air)

I wasn't checking myself. Relied on what Gill Gross said about the relative speeds.

This doesn't do the kit justice. It is BRIGHT.

Best response:

ClubChaos·8 hr. ago

Alcaraz after seeing all the bee themed clothing. "Welp, I'm out"

The most cowardly thing a tennis player can do. Abuse a lines person (or ball person).
They know they cannot reply, or even defend themselves.
If the ATP does nothing to Medvedev, it will show their lack of a spine.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:19 am The most cowardly thing a tennis player can do. Abuse a lines person (or ball person).
They know they cannot reply, or even defend themselves.
If the ATP does nothing to Medvedev, it will show their lack of a spine.

Well the ATP definitely lacks a skeletal structure.

Zverev vs Tsitsipas! One would expect this to be a semifinals, shows how much Tsitsi has fallen in the rankings...looks like he is back though, so should be a good one

Tsisi doing well!No surprise Medvedev lost.. very impressed with Nagal for takng a set off Rune..