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Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 1:46 pm
by texasniteowl
dave g...hope you don't mind...I had a few minutes...
UNOFFICIAL Day 5 Summary
Norrie: 7
Rublev: 12
Mensik: 6
Griekspoor: 2
Fonseca: 4
Fils: 1
Shapovalov: 1
Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 1:59 pm
by dave g
Day 5 Official Pick Summary
Start 35
No Pick 2
Remaining 33
Rublev 13
Mensik 6
Norrie 6
Fonseca 4
Griekspoor 2
Fils 1
Shapovalov 1
Survivors 26
Dead 7
Unknown 0
Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 2:28 pm
by ptmcmahon
dave g wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2025 10:42 pm
I agree with everything that has been said. The proper cut-off time is the start of play. If a withdraw happens after the start of play, then the winning player is a valid pick. If the withdraw happens before the start of play, then the winning player is not a valid pick. I also agree with texasniteowl that this is not an ideal rule, and that some people's ability to make valid picks might be impaired because the time zone they live in. However, I also agree with mmmm8, in that this is the least unfair solution to the problem. I also know that mmmm8 has been around for a long time and probably has the best rememberance of how the rule has been applied in this situation, historically.
Thanks everyone, for your input.
For better or worse, all TAT contests will have slight advantages to people in right time zones, or able to be online right at deadline. Especially Biggest Loser when there is a qualifying match going on right before main draw
And we had a good example of how it can become sticky just last year at FO when Djokovic withdrew before quarterfinal making that match unpickable. Was just bad luck for anyone who needed it to beat draw, although it wound up just making a big 8-way tie anyway.
I even said "Ruud won't be playing so you won't be able to pick him tomorrow. If Djokovic had withdrawn after the thread was posted you probably could have made the pick before he withdrew."

Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 2:46 pm
by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 4:26 am
Perricard is a strictly second-rate player, after his serve, there is nothing - all his shots look shaky.. I was cursing myself for picking him on day 1 but there were few good options so I survived.. but too many people backed him in the scond round! The decline of Tsitsipas is sad, to say the least.. he is a fun player to watch.. oh well.
I love how quickly you dismiss players after a single loss.
Perricard has reached #29 in the world, at age 20. Yes, the serve is a bazooka, but the FH is also very big. And, at this age, he has already won 2 titles.
I don't want to speak for the others that died yesterday with this pick, but I picked him because, while Perricard is "only" a serve, what is Dzumhur? No weapons, a lot of defense, but this is a player that is coming back, at age 30, from an infection (I think) so severe that he could have died. Plus, the winner got to play Alcaraz in the next round.
If Perrricard gets to move into the top 10 in a couple of years, ala Draper, I will not be surprised. He has weapons. The consistency is what is missing, as we sadly learned yesterday.
Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 3:24 pm
by ashkor87
It is not the loss, it is his game, as seen by my own eyes!
have you actually seen the match? If you have, I am sure you would agree with me... he has no game, he is just a serve-bot.
Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 4:45 pm
by ponchi101
I have seen him play. The serve is huge. The FH is also a big and the BH, to me, is lovely, because it is a good looking one hander.
His consistency makes Laconte look rock solid. He is a very good example of the French school: gorgeous strokes, a madman juggling two chainsaws at the same time.
The age in which serve-bots could reach a high ranking just because of their serve is over. You need something else to reach #29.
Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 4:58 pm
by ashkor87
I completely disagree. But that is fine.
Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Fri May 30, 2025 4:09 am
by jazzyg
I'm with ashkor on this one.
I've noted multiple times how few points Perricord wins on his opponent's serve. Sometimes it is less than one point put game for an entire match. HIs return of serve is particularly wretched, and while he does have a big forehand, his footwork is extremely poor and his attention to detail is subpar.
His serve is good enough to win matches by itself, but he will have to improve significantly in every other aspect to be a real factor.
Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Fri May 30, 2025 2:34 pm
by dave g
Day 6 Pick Summary
Start 26
No Pick 0
Remaining 26
Shelton 10
Rune 7
Medjedovic 4
Popyrin 3
Musetti 2
Survivors 22
Dead 4
Unknown 0
Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Fri May 30, 2025 7:50 pm
by Oploskoffie
With regards to day 7, Fils has pulled out due to injury.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DKSeWUHoRAE/
Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 12:50 pm
by dave g
Day 7 Pick Summary
Start 26
No Pick 5
Remaining 21
Griekspoor 15
Bublic 5
Norrie 1
Survivors 21
Dead 0
Unknown 0
Everybody made it through. Congratulations!!
Tomorrow, the survivors will move to an "Updated" thread.
Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 1:22 pm
by ptmcmahon
Yikes that was close for the bandwagon.
Re: 2025 French Open Survivor Pool: ATP Picks and Results
Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 5:17 pm
by Fastbackss
20 percent nearly no picks. Yikes