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Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:24 am
by Owendonovan
Corporate profits are up thanks to "inflation".
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:11 am
by ashkor87
Not surprising, is it? Inflation only hurts those whose income is fixed in nominal terms ..corporations by definition do not fall into that category
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:40 am
by ashkor87
There is an old saying..'every people gets the government it deserves'..we are about to find out.
(Btw in this context People is singular)
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:05 pm
by ponchi101
I don't think that my country deserved the government we have.
We were stupid and uneducated. And we voted these criminals into power. But the punishment has been too long.
And if that saying were true, no revolution would have ever been successful. After all, you already had "the government you deserved". So, your change of government was not deserved.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:05 pm
by ponchi101
As we approach the day:
Good luck, America.
(I hope tomorrow we will not be singing King Crimson's Epitaph).
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:36 pm
by dryrunguy
I have had two strange feelings for the past several days. First, I feel like it is 2016 all over again. But this time, I know what ultimately happens because I've seen the movie before, but I'll watch it again in hope the ending changes this time--like Clue. I can't explain that. It makes no sense.
Second, I feel like it will be a landslide, but I don't know in which way. Based on the polling, I can't explain that, either.
I think I'm just jaded.
And I hope beyond hope that this does NOT depend entirely on the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
I'm not making a point here. I'm just rambling. All I can do is ramble.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:31 am
by ti-amie
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:56 am
by ti-amie
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:01 am
by ti-amie
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:21 am
by Suliso
Harris might or might not win, but if she does not I can't think of any significant mistakes she has made in this campaign. In that case the only conclusion is that Americans just love Trump too much and/or want to throw out the ruling party.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:18 pm
by ponchi101
A significant portion of America is fed up with the woke mentality, and this squarely on the dems. This may be fair or not, but it is the optics of a lot of people. So, these lot of people are going to vote for Tiny because they are tired of being told that you have to feel guilty all the time about everything.
Bill Maher said it last Friday. The economy is doing very well. Are there poor people? Sure. It is a country of 340MM. But the dems never talked about it, which is Biden's best achievement. Gas under $3, unemployment under 4%, sales of EV's are up, the stock market is up, and immediately after the election and coming out of C19, every single economist said the USA (and the world) would go into a recession. We know it didn't.
The vote will go by what an esteemed member of this forum said: the dems have been painted as anti white and anti men. Plus as anti a few other things. But the dems suck at RealPolitiks, and can't see this.
Which is why I believe Dry, a couple of posts above, is right.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:18 pm
by mmmm8
Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:21 am
Harris might or might not win, but if she does not I can't think of any significant mistakes she has made in this campaign. In that case the only conclusion is that Americans just love Trump too much and/or want to throw out the ruling party.
Don't underestimate the role of racism and mysogyny. I know the joke is that that is synonymous with loving Trump, but it's not the same. I've met so many Democrat, NYC-based people who will vote for Harris (or at least say they will) but very reluctantly because "it's something about that woman that I don't like. I just can't put my finger on it."
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:21 pm
by mmmm8
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:18 pm
A significant portion of America is fed up with the woke mentality, and this squarely on the dems. This may be fair or not, but it is the optics of a lot of people. So, these lot of people are going to vote for Tiny because they are tired of being told that you have to feel guilty all the time about everything.
Bill Maher said it last Friday. The economy is doing very well. Are there poor people? Sure. It is a country of 340MM. But the dems never talked about it, which is Biden's best achievement. Gas under $3, unemployment under 4%, sales of EV's are up, the stock market is up, and immediately after the election and coming out of C19, every single economist said the USA (and the world) would go into a recession. We know it didn't.
The vote will go by what an esteemed member of this forum said: the dems have been painted as anti white and anti men. Plus as anti a few other things. But the dems suck at RealPolitiks, and can't see this.
Which is why I believe Dry, a couple of posts above, is right.
Bill Maher is garbage, that's all I can say.
I'm not saying the Democratic Party is doing a great spin job, your point about realpolitik is valid, but "woke mentality" is a dog whistle and Bill Maher loves to whistle.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:31 pm
by Owendonovan
Ahhh, "wokeism", where you're punished for viewing history through an honest historical lens. If you choose not to view America as it actually is and/or was, that's your choice to be ignorant, and that's how you'll be viewed, ignorant. A significant portion of America is too lazy and too unambiguously educated to even get close to being woke. They are the ones who complain about "wokeism.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:33 pm
by Suliso
mmmm8 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:18 pm
Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:21 am
Harris might or might not win, but if she does not I can't think of any significant mistakes she has made in this campaign. In that case the only conclusion is that Americans just love Trump too much and/or want to throw out the ruling party.
Don't underestimate the role of racism and mysogyny. I know the joke is that that is synonymous with loving Trump, but it's not the same. I've met so many Democrat, NYC-based people who will vote for Harris (or at least say they will) but very reluctantly because "it's something about that woman that I don't like. I just can't put my finger on it."
Yes, a good point. Albeit hard core racists were always going to vote for Trump. Still I think she has run a good professional campaign and probably couldn't have done better. Now we just need to wait and see whether it has been enough.