Talk About Tennis 2.0

mmmm8 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:21 pm
I think you're missing that a portion of the US that would never vote for a mixed race woman is a very significant portion, whereas the percentage that would never again vote for a white male is absolutely miniscule.

I agree, very significant. Albeit 40% would never vote for a white male Democrat either. How do you figure out how many are specifically against a mixed race woman?

Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:31 pm

mmmm8 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:21 pm
I think you're missing that a portion of the US that would never vote for a mixed race woman is a very significant portion, whereas the percentage that would never again vote for a white male is absolutely miniscule.

I agree, very significant. Albeit 40% would never vote for a white male Democrat either. How do you figure out how many are specifically against a mixed race woman?

I guess it's because of how unfazed/ the "undecided" voters are (left by mistake - EDITING OUT)

There is some data here, if you look at non-college educated white people especially - the party split is especially big in 2016 (Hillary Clinton):
https://cawp.rutgers.edu/gender-gap-vot ... -elections

But it's hard to show, having so few national examples for women and people of color, and no precedent for a viable non-white woman presidential candidate. I think it's generally intuition because so many local elections are won by incompetent men facing competent women, and many places have been redlined to avoid even getting non-white people into local offices. But it might be confirmation bias.

Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:29 pm I'm all for inclusiveness and all the sexual stuff doesn't bother me at all, but what does bother me a lot is economic craziness. The notion that prosperity could somehow be legislated instead of worked for. That way lies Argentina before Millei... Also thinly wailed antisemitism in Palestine support and misplaced "greenness" (see German closure of nuclear plants). Also some people need to be kept out and some other left in jail as non inclusive as it might sound.

Of course we have issues with far right too, but you asked about the left.

I think the econ stuff comes down to populism and bad understanding of economics (just like trickle-down and other bad theories do on the right).

I didn't know about the German nuclear plant closure - sounds like bad science. The antisemitism is alive and well here as well.

FWIW, I don't think many who are active here would disagree with you. I think maybe on your last point, depending on who and how.

Fake bomb threats made in Fulton County, GA. They were phoned in from Russia. Lovely.

FBI Statement on Additional Inauthentic Uses of Bureau Name, Insignia in Promoting False Election-Related Narratives

Today, the FBI was made aware of three instances of its name and insignia being misused to promote false narratives surrounding the election. These three instances are the latest in a series of fabricated videos and statements falsely attributed to the FBI designed to mislead the American public.

The first is a fabricated FBI written statement warning media and bloggers against publishing information about violence at polling stations. The false statement claims active dissemination of information about attacks at polling stations may provoke a spontaneous increase in such incidents and that withholding such information would ensure the safety of U.S. citizens. This statement is not authentic, is not from the FBI, and its contents are false.

The second is a fabricated video impersonating the FBI and a United States government agency purportedly providing a joint statement suggesting schools suspend educational activities through November 11, claiming that "the risk of school shooting and riots has increased significantly" because of the U.S. election. The fake video further states, to avoid casualties, schools should switch to distance learning or temporarily cancel classes. This video is not authentic, is not from the FBI, and its contents are false.

The third is a fabricated video claiming the FBI received "9,000 complaints about malfunctioning voting machines." It further states that the machines were found submitting votes for a specific candidate. This video is also not authentic, is not from the FBI, and its contents are false.

Election integrity is among our highest priorities, and the FBI is working closely with state and local law enforcement partners to respond to election threats and protect our communities as Americans exercise their right to vote. Attempts to deceive the public with false content about FBI threat assessments and activities aim to undermine our democratic process and erode trust in the electoral system.

The FBI encourages everyone to seek election and voting information from reliable sources, such as your local election office. And if you suspect criminal activity, we ask that you report that information to state or local law enforcement or by contacting the FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI (225-5324), or by submitting a tip online to tips.fbi.gov.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases ... narratives

In reference to the discussion about people potentially not voting for a woman and a woman of color, that 3% difference vs 2020, given what we know about Trump's regard for women, is an indicator

P.S. Why are black people always carrying this democracy?

Harris ahead with women but not by landslide - national exit polls suggest

Chris Jeavans
Senior data journalist

There’s been a lot of discussion about the gender split at this election.

The latest exit poll numbers do suggest women are backing Harris by about 54%, compared with 44% for Trump.

But President Joe Biden had a larger gender split in 2020, with 57% of women voting for him.

Exit poll data is being added throughout the night so these are not final numbers. They also don’t reveal what is happening in the swing states.

Looking at race, Trump is leading among white voters - the biggest single group - and Harris is leading with black voters.

She is also ahead with Hispanic voters but it looks like support for Trump has increased more than 10 points among this group compared with 2020.

America looking pretty stupid right now.

Looking like Trump 2.0 will be a reality.

Unfortunately my initial assesment of Democrats having been painted as anti white and anti men was a correct one.

Once again, we see the folly of anointing your successor..if there had been a proper primary, a stronger candidate than Harris might have emerged...Biden is to blame, for hanging on so long that there was no time to name anyone other than the VP. We all forgot that Harris has never won a nationwide election, we now know why.

This is true, but it could also be that no one could have beaten Trump in this cycle. Voters just wanted Democrats out...

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:17 am Once again, we see the folly of anointing your successor..if there had been a proper primary, a stronger candidate than Harris might have emerged...Biden is to blame, for hanging on so long that there was no time to name anyone other than the VP. We all forgot that Harris has never won a nationwide election, we now know why.

I blame the entire DNC for not having any plan post Obama. Biden never should have run for president.

Is RNC having a plan post Trump? As for Democrats they'll need to spend the next 3 years or so in substantially remaking their message.

Suliso wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:06 pm Is RNC having a plan post Trump? As for Democrats they'll need to spend the next 3 years or so in substantially remaking their message.

Yes, Vance, Crawley, Cruz, Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas, Gaetz, etc. The apparatus is already set up.

Women's autonomy weirdly wasn't as big an issue as I thought it would be, so that didn't help the Dems.
I'll take cold comfort from a bump in my retirement investments.
There's little I care to do to make America a better place.

I have always believed the US will have a female President some day but it will be a Republican...like Haley