Talk About Tennis 2.0

I'm hearing that Indian Wells 2019 points will FINALLY be removed 2 or 3 weeks after this year's tournament ends.
That 2019 U.S. Open and 2019 Toronto points were removed before 2019 Indian Wells points, even though the U. S. Open and Toronto were played AFTER Indian Wells in 2019, is rather absurd.

I hope Andreescu will be wearing a parachute when her 2019 Indian Wells points finally vanish in a couple of weeks.

Deuce wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:34 am I'm hearing that Indian Wells 2019 points will FINALLY be removed 2 or 3 weeks after this year's tournament ends.
That 2019 U.S. Open and 2019 Toronto points were removed before 2019 Indian Wells points, even though the U. S. Open and Toronto were played AFTER Indian Wells in 2019, is rather absurd.

I hope Andreescu will be wearing a parachute when her 2019 Indian Wells points finally vanish in a couple of weeks.

This idiocy did nothing for either tour. The gymnastics the ATP went through though were worse that what the WTA did though.

ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:25 pm

Deuce wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:34 am I'm hearing that Indian Wells 2019 points will FINALLY be removed 2 or 3 weeks after this year's tournament ends.
That 2019 U.S. Open and 2019 Toronto points were removed before 2019 Indian Wells points, even though the U. S. Open and Toronto were played AFTER Indian Wells in 2019, is rather absurd.

I hope Andreescu will be wearing a parachute when her 2019 Indian Wells points finally vanish in a couple of weeks.

This idiocy did nothing for either tour. The gymnastics the ATP went through though were worse that what the WTA did though.

Granted... But the main beneficiary of the manipulated rankings in the ATP has been a legend of the game who has had a phenomenal 20 year career.
The main beneficiary of the manipulated rankings in the WTA has been a player who had a good 6 months 2 years ago, and who has done nothing of note since then.

That doesn't justify what the ATP has done - but it does highlight a significant difference.

ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:25 pm
This idiocy did nothing for either tour. The gymnastics the ATP went through though were worse that what the WTA did though.

Much worse to me. And for their troubles they got a no show at the Olympics.

Don't care. Maybe don't throw out gay slurs at your opponent and more people will find some sympathy for you, huh?

JazzNU wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:37 pm Don't care. Maybe don't throw out gay slurs at your opponent and more people will find some sympathy for you, huh?

Wait what? When did this happen?

I have no idea about such an incident either, but regardless he's of course right. I'm looking forward with some interest to emergence of both Danish junior #1 players.

ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:44 pm
Wait what? When did this happen?

Earlier this year at a tournament, I think challenger tour. ATP players stay disappointing.

ETA: I posted a link to this story in the Tennis Random thread.

One more time I see a confirmation that WTA website is utterly disorganized and useless. They call all former Tier I tournaments now "WTA1000". But the points for Montreal and Indian Wells are not the same (900 and 1000 respectively). How can you claim that they are the same category? They should've stay with "Mandatory" definition. At least the distinction could be seen this way...

I had not noticed, but certainly one more looney factor from these pandemic years. I don't recall that being the case in the past. Maybe somebody can clarify that.

FWIW, I'm fine with the WTA website. I usually find what I'm looking for very easily. I know it has a terrible reputation, but I always speak up in its defense. I've just never had much of an issue with it, and I use it quite a bit - mostly for player info and news, not tournament info.

Djokovic, Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Zverev, Rublev and Berrettini have qualified for ATP finals. The last two spots will be played out between Ruud, Hurkacz, Sinner and Norrie. That is unless someone immediately below wins Paris masters.

Jannik Sinner will reach the top 10 for the first time if he beats Ruud today.

Lots of strange things happening in WTA rankings this week. 2019 YEC championship points are coming off finally, but 2019 IW points stay another week (90% sure). Here is the list of major changes this Monday:

- Career high rankings for Krejcikova (3), Sakkari (6), Jabeur (7), Kontaveit (8), Badosa (11)
- Svitolina's four year uninterrupted stay in the top 10 is over (down to #14). Barty now has the longest active streak at ca 2 years
- Angelique Kerber rejoins the top 10 for the last week this year and possibly ever (#16 in the race)
- Bencic (18) and Osaka (13) also out of the top 10
- Donna Vekic gains 30 spots to #67

Badosa missed out on joining the top 10 because of Kontaveit's win today, but should be getting there anyway a week later (replacing Kerber).