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Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:25 pm
by JTContinental
I think Kenin will be back up soon--she looked good against Keys, who is on fire right now

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:56 pm
by mick1303
I'm wondering if ever such pronounced "change of guard" happened when 6 out of top 10 are reached this ranking for the first time. This is in reference to 2021 WTA year-end ranking.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:06 pm
by meganfernandez
mick1303 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:56 pm I'm wondering if ever such pronounced "change of guard" happened when 6 out of top 10 are reached this ranking for the first time. This is in reference to 2021 WTA year-end ranking.
I don't think anyone framed it that way because the WTA hasn't had much of a guard. A lot of the Top 10 fixtures, like Pliskova and Svitolina, weren't dominating at Slams.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:02 pm
by JazzNU
JTContinental wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:25 pm I think Kenin will be back up soon--she looked good against Keys, who is on fire right now

Agreed that I think she'll be climbing again soon. Sonya would've been a considerable number of players given her form against Madison, it was just a terrible 1st round draw for her, since at least to me, at both of their best, Madison wins that battle, and she showed it in that match. She couldn't overcome a serving day like the one Madison had.

Also, she is a GS winner. The climb back up will be considerably easier with the wild cards she can get, it's just a matter of her playing, which she did very little of last season.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:36 am
by mick1303
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:06 pm
mick1303 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:56 pm I'm wondering if ever such pronounced "change of guard" happened when 6 out of top 10 are reached this ranking for the first time. This is in reference to 2021 WTA year-end ranking.
I don't think anyone framed it that way because the WTA hasn't had much of a guard. A lot of the Top 10 fixtures, like Pliskova and Svitolina, weren't dominating at Slams.
Which is why I put it in quotes ))

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:39 am
by Suliso
Now official that Naomi goes down to #84 (unless Kanepi goes very far). Of course she'll rise again, but it will take some time.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:24 pm
by meganfernandez
Suliso wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:39 am Now official that Naomi goes down to #84 (unless Kanepi goes very far). Of course she'll rise again, but it will take some time.
Yikes, she might need wild cards to some WTA events. No byes and she could face top seeds in the first round.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:01 pm
by ponchi101
She can show up at the gates of any tournament and say she wants to play after the draw has been set, and they will bump some other player out. She is still a huge draw.
Amazing how this has happened. But sure, if she is mentally back, she will be top 20 by the end of the year. Basically, no points to defend for the entire season.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:28 am
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote:She can show up at the gates of any tournament and say she wants to play after the draw has been set, and they will bump some other player out. She is still a huge draw.
Amazing how this has happened. But sure, if she is mentally back, she will be top 20 by the end of the year. Basically, no points to defend for the entire season.
Oh she’ll get in to any event. But might draw a top seed in the first round.


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Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:54 pm
by ponchi101
Indeed she can. It makes it for a bad situation for everybody. Not only her, as she draws a high opponent, but for the opponent and for the tournament, as they might lose a top star.
I hope she climbs up fast enough.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:37 pm
by JazzNU
I think drawing a high seed is a problem for her opponents, not her. Her record against top ranked players is very, very good. It'll be a temporary issue. But most tournaments aren't going to care that they lose, I don't know like Krejcikova or Mertens early if they get to have Naomi making a deep run.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:00 pm
by ponchi101
You explained it better than I did.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:53 pm
by Suliso
Suliso wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:26 am Here are some interesting changes for WTA involving players no longer in the tournament

- Muguruza down at least 3 spots to #6, but could realistically be overtaken also by Sakkari and Swiatek
- Alison Riske down at least 9 spots to #55
- Karolina Muchova down at least 34 spots to #65
- Marie Bouzkova up as much as 13 to #73
- Kristina Kucova up as much as 17 to #79
- Xinyu Wang up 15 to #85 (younger generation Chinese, 20 years old)
- Martina Trevisan up 19 and back in the top 100 at #92
- Qinwen Zhang up 15 to #93 making her top 100 debut (she's 19)
- Sofia Kenin down 81 spots to #94
- Donna Vekic tumbles out of the top 100 by losing 28 positions to #107
- Jennifer Brady with an impressive 83 spot drop to #111
And now the rest with the tournament almost over

- Swiatek up 5 to career high #4
- Collins up 20 to career high #10 (win or lose the final)
- Career high positions for Raducanu (#14) and Pegula (#16)
- Azarenka rejoins the top 20 (up 6 to #19)
- Same for Kasatkina (up 6 to #17)
- Halep down 8 to #23
- Keys up 23 to #28
- Cornet up 24 to #37
- Anisimova up 18 to #42
- Kanepi up 53 to #63
- Osaka down 71 spots to #85

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:15 pm
by Deuce
Suliso wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:53 pm
Suliso wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:26 am Here are some interesting changes for WTA involving players no longer in the tournament

- Muguruza down at least 3 spots to #6, but could realistically be overtaken also by Sakkari and Swiatek
- Alison Riske down at least 9 spots to #55
- Karolina Muchova down at least 34 spots to #65
- Marie Bouzkova up as much as 13 to #73
- Kristina Kucova up as much as 17 to #79
- Xinyu Wang up 15 to #85 (younger generation Chinese, 20 years old)
- Martina Trevisan up 19 and back in the top 100 at #92
- Qinwen Zhang up 15 to #93 making her top 100 debut (she's 19)
- Sofia Kenin down 81 spots to #94
- Donna Vekic tumbles out of the top 100 by losing 28 positions to #107
- Jennifer Brady with an impressive 83 spot drop to #111
And now the rest with the tournament almost over

- Swiatek up 5 to career high #4
- Collins up 20 to career high #10 (win or lose the final)
- Career high positions for Raducanu (#14) and Pegula (#16)
- Azarenka rejoins the top 20 (up 6 to #19)
- Same for Kasatkina (up 6 to #17)
- Halep down 8 to #23
- Keys up 23 to #28
- Cornet up 24 to #37
- Anisimova up 18 to #42
- Kanepi up 53 to #63
- Osaka down 71 spots to #85
Leylah rises 2 spots to a career high #22 - despite losing in the 1st round at the Aussie Open and losing in the 2nd round in Adelaide. Go figure.
Strange how the rankings go - sometimes you get 'rewarded' even if you lose. It depends on what the other players near you in the rankings have done over the past 52 weeks.

Tauson up to a career high #34, as well... At least she did it by winning :) .

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:59 pm
by mick1303
If Medvedev loses the final, then he defended his 2021 points, while Djokovic will have his 2000 points from 2021 to drop completely. But this will happen on Feb 21. What are the scenarios? Could Medvedev overtake him for #1 without winning AO? Also they both lose ATP Cup points from last year - Medvedev - 500, Djokovic - 140. It looks like if nothing will happen, Medvedev will be 350 ahead. But why they say that Medvedev needs to win AO to get #1? What am I missing?