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Don't forget how the WTA burned the ATP with regards to their participation in what was "TennisTV" including the WTA. Corporations may not be people but they have long memories.

ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 1:04 am Don't forget how the WTA burned the ATP with regards to their participation in what was "TennisTV" including the WTA. Corporations may not be people but they have long memories.

I don't know that story. But regardless, ATP says themselves they are a partner of the WTA, they have actively partnered on many things in the last few years. This isn't a controversial, go against he Chinese government/tennis federation kind of thing, it's something that would've been good for them to do and they could've gotten great PR from it as well.

"French tennis player Hugo Gaston’s unsportsmanlike conduct draws $155K fine; tops his 2023 earnings"

LONDON (AP) — French tennis player Hugo Gaston was fined 144,000 euros (about $155,000) by the ATP Tour — more than he’s collected in prize money so far in 2023 — for pulling a ball out of his pocket and throwing it on the court during a point in an attempt to get a do-over, his fourth unsportsmanlike conduct violation this season.

The tour announced its ruling on Monday, saying that Gaston’s appeal of the punishment got it reduced by half, to 72,000 euros (about $77,500), as long as he meets certain conditions, including no additional violations during a probationary period of a year.

The ATP said unsportsmanlike conduct fines “increase by 100% with each consecutive violation in the same season.”

Gaston has made a little more than $120,000 in prize money this year while going 2-5 on tour. He is a 22-year-old left-hander who has been ranked as high as 58th and is currently 108th.

The fine was prompted by Gaston’s attempt to get the chair umpire to call off a point and replay it during his 6-3, 6-3 loss to Borna Coric in the second round of the Madrid Open on April 28.

Last week, the French Tennis Federation awarded Gaston a wild-card entry into the French Open, which begins on Sunday. The best Grand Slam showing of his career came at Roland Garros in 2020, when he reached the fourth round there. He made it to the third round in Paris a year ago.
https://apnews.com/article/fine-prize-m ... bbb5c0b490

7 matches 4 unsportsmanlike conduct. How charming. Here's your wildcard, that'll about take care of your fine, just show up for the first round.

Not a good look for the tournament, I agree

JazzNU wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 12:57 am

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 9:27 pm Let's have it by fiat. If the tournament is a joint event, it must have the same prize money.
But the organizers decide if it will be joint. Let the economics talk.

If the ATP were a true partner, they would've insisted on equal pay before approving the move to the 12-day schedule. They didn't have to give them that at all, leave them out until they get with the times.

I don't think even the ATP would say they are a true partner of the WTA. They are a for-profit organization separate of the WTA with different goals and stakeholders. There has to be an incentive besides "we're nice" to drive their behavior in favor of female players.

Mikael Ymer was dq'd from a match today after the chair refused to check a mark on a call he disputed and he hit the umpire's chair in frustration.

I would agree with such a dq'd; there has got to be a line.
But: why did the chair refuse to check the mark?

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 8:09 pm I would agree with such a dq'd; there has got to be a line.
But: why did the chair refuse to check the mark?

There was a big discussion about this earlier today on Tennis Mastodon with many saying that if the chair had been Mo or Bernardes they would've come down and checked even if the call wouldn't be overturned. I'll try to find it because some blamed the inexperience of the chair at the top level of tennis.

José Morgado
@josemorgado@sportsbots.xyz
I would say exactly the same if it was Bernardes or Lahyani.

I don't have any special relationship with Rogério, who doesn't do a lot of chair at ATP level but is a very experienced ATP Supervisor who works in the biggest tournaments of the tour (saw him in Madrid, for example).

For once I agree with Ben

ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 2:43 am

For once I agree with Ben

All the makings for a race issue if not handled appropriately.

Give him the same treatment as Zverev.
Announce a policy, FROM NOW ON, that will be standard for this sort of behavior.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 2:44 pm Give him the same treatment as Zverev.
Announce a policy, FROM NOW ON, that will be standard for this sort of behavior.

Don't hold your breath.