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mick1303 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:59 pm If Medvedev loses the final, then he defended his 2021 points, while Djokovic will have his 2000 points from 2021 to drop completely. But this will happen on Feb 21. What are the scenarios? Could Medvedev overtake him for #1 without winning AO? Also they both lose ATP Cup points from last year - Medvedev - 500, Djokovic - 140. It looks like if nothing will happen, Medvedev will be 350 ahead. But why they say that Medvedev needs to win AO to get #1? What am I missing?

Why does it take till Feb 21 for ranking points to drop? Shouldn't it be Monday, Jan. 30?

Because last year AO was in February.

mick1303 wrote:Because last year AO was in February.

Totally forgot.


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That's a huge event on ATP tour. Meanwhile among women Krejcikova will rise to career high #2.

For women here is the current live top 10 in the race:

Barty
Swiatek
Collins
Ostapenko
Keys
Kontaveit
Sakkari
Krejcikova
Badosa
Halep

Suliso wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:28 pm That's a huge event on ATP tour. Meanwhile among women Krejcikova will rise to career high #2.

For women here is the current live top 10 in the race:

Barty
Swiatek
Collins
Ostapenko
Keys
Kontaveit
Sakkari
Krejcikova
Badosa
Halep

Agree. It has been so long.
Novax ends his reign with a current total of 361 weeks at #1 (right?). No man is even close to that number, and he sits behind only Graf, who held the spot for 377 weeks.

Yes, 361 weeks. He should get his shoes redone.

Although, and this is nothing against him specifically, I think the same for Barty. I think it's complete BS that they are counting weeks during the hiatus.

Problem would be: define how long was the hiatus. From the point of view of the accounting, it would be very difficult.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:58 pm Problem would be: define how long was the hiatus. From the point of view of the accounting, it would be very difficult.

I wouldn't use their actual involvement in a tournament, but the Tours calendars themselves. Time between last staged tournament to the first one once they resumed for each tour. Djokovic can gets weeks counted after AO in 2020 no problem even if he didn't play the rest of that winter (don't remember if that's the case) and then start again with the first tournament back in August 2020. And Barty can get all the weeks in 2020 when WTA resumed but she couldn't leave Australia. Just like it would've counted regularly had they say, been injured and couldn't participate but had enough points to stay at #1.

They messed enough with the rankings as is, this historical marker is one that feels particularly unnecessary alter in this manner.

JazzNU wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:54 pm Yes, 361 weeks. He should get his shoes redone.

Although, and this is nothing against him specifically, I think the same for Barty. I think it's complete BS that they are counting weeks during the hiatus.

They are not.

They are not BS or they are not counting them?

Yeah, I'm not sure. The weeks they kept releasing for Barty included the hiatus weeks, it made people mad every time it was posted by the official WTA accounts. Maybe they adjusted and substracted the hiatus? Which would be fantastic to hear.

Official count excludes the period rankings were frozen. I think till summer 2021.