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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:13 am
by ti-amie
Oh I am so glad someone else has a negative opinion about Ms Cirstea.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:57 am
by ponchi101
I like her. And Johanson. I hope they do well.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:32 am
by Deuce
I've wanted to like her...
I've tried to like her...
But there are just too many incidents.
I don't despise her or anything - I just think she's a handful, and I really don't think that Johansson's personality is a good matchup. She needs someone who can give her crap right back to her - Thomas is not that person.

(I also think that she is chameleon-like in her appearance, often looking quite different than before, much like Svitolina.)

There was the time she physically shoved a chair umpire...


Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:06 pm
by ti-amie
Deuce wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:32 am I've wanted to like her...
I've tried to like her...
But there are just too many incidents.
I don't despise her or anything - I just think she's a handful, and I really don't think that Johansson's personality is a good matchup. She needs someone who can give her crap right back to her - Thomas is not that person.

(I also think that she is chameleon-like in her appearance, often looking quite different than before, much like Svitolina.)

There was the time she physically shoved a chair umpire...

And nothing was done about it either.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:49 pm
by ti-amie

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:57 pm
by ponchi101
Assorted jobs with more security that Emma Raducanu's coach:
Komodo dragon trainer.
Human cannonball test pilot.
Blind land-mine sweeper.
Rodeo clown/Moonshine taster (concurrent).
Vladimir Putin's military advisor.
Donald Trump Lawyer.
C4/Semtex "New applications" developer.

Why would anybody take the job right now, I don't know.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:48 pm
by ti-amie



It's not what you do it's how you do it.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:51 pm
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:57 pm Assorted jobs with more security that Emma Raducanu's coach:
Komodo dragon trainer.
Human cannonball test pilot.
Blind land-mine sweeper.
Rodeo clown/Moonshine taster (concurrent).
Vladimir Putin's military advisor.
Donald Trump Lawyer.
C4/Semtex "New applications" developer.

Why would anybody take the job right now, I don't know.
A giant signing bonus? What is there to lose?

It's possible that job security isn't a big factor for top tennis coaches. They know it might not work out, and there's only one way to know if it's a good fit. Sascha Bajin said he's interested and the coaching turnover doesn't bother him at all; he's confident in his skills, but if it didn't work out, fine, move on. Given the recent history, a potential coach might ask for some severance built into the contract, or a minimum salary guarantee, or a favorable buyout clause.

Whatever's causing the situations to not work out might be cause for concern, depending on what it is. I'm sure they all know. Word gets around.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:59 pm
by ti-amie
Someone in her camp thinks they can pick and choose what they want her to learn at a given time and choose a coach accordingly. The problem is that instead of her developing a solid mental approach in how she plays she's got a zillion "do this do that" methods in her head and has no idea how to adapt to what any given player is doing against her. I wish I could find a pic of Tursunov's face during her most recent match.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:09 pm
by ponchi101
If it were something like: "This coach is good at THIS, so will teach you just that", I see no issues. Pete Fisher did that with Sampras, sending him to different coaches to learn different bits. If they are doing a "systems engineering" approach, fine.
But I don't know if that is the philosophy, because Fisher used it on a teenage Sampras. Not a full time pro.
(I know she is still technically a teenager, but, you get my point).

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:39 am
by Deuce
In 2 or 3 years, it will be revealed that 'Emma Raducanu' is not the name of a tennis player, but is, in fact, the name of a 'reality show'...

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:10 pm
by JazzNU

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:13 pm
by JazzNU
Not sure either of these are long term, but interesting pairings.

Can't imagine a world where Dmitry lasts long with Belinda unless she's matured significantly in the last few years, but we shall see.

Sascha with Alona could be very interesting. But she hasn't lasted all that long with coaches, so let's see what happens, but there are things that he has been known to focus on that really might make a big difference in fine tuning her game to get more consistency.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:38 pm
by meganfernandez
JazzNU wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:13 pm Sascha with Alona could be very interesting. But she hasn't lasted all that long with coaches, so let's see what happens, but there are things that he has been known to focus on that really might make a big difference in fine tuning her game to get more consistency.
This is surprising. I thought he would have a lot of options, and he wants to coach someone to championship form. Maybe he really thinks he can help her do that. Maybe they get along well and are friends. Maybe the terms are favorable. But weird one. Guess it's kind of like Pliskova, an experienced player with room for better results.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:55 pm
by JazzNU
Might be alone in thinking this, but I'm not under the impression that Sascha's got a lot of options.