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Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:22 pm
by ti-amie

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:40 pm
by dmforever
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:13 pm Why are all those soldiers marching into the Capitol?
I know it might be a silly question, but I wonder why they are inside. They should be standing outside, if it is for protection.
I know this seems hyperbolic to write, but I can think of a few reasons.

1. Maybe they are planning just in case terrorists break through police lines like they did last Wednesday.

2. Maybe they are planning just in case there are people on the inside (Congress guards?) that are sympathetic to the terrorists or even terrorists themselves.

3. Maybe they are worried about violence from lawmakers and their staffs themselves. Many of them just stepped around the metal detectors, so they could have concealed weapons.

It's absolute total insanity.

Kevin

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:42 pm
by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:13 pm Why are all those soldiers marching into the Capitol?
I know it might be a silly question, but I wonder why they are inside. They should be standing outside, if it is for protection.
There are many of troops outside. DC, and the Capitol area specifically, has been described as The Citadel right now. There's DC Guard, but also guards from surrounding states including MD, VA, DE, PA, NJ, and NY staying through the end of the month. That's in addition to physical safeguards put in place like fencing and barriers. Also doesn't count Capitol police, DC Police, and Park Police. i.e., what should've been there last week.

They are inside because they are needed there. You've got 3 House members implicated in coordinating the attack, a few who went around the metal detectors who profess to be carrying guns, one of which appears to have provided Pelosi's location to the insurrectionists last week. They are needed inside and outside. And we don't even know the intel like they do on the threats that have been made. Congress was briefed yesterday on them, they are apparently chilling.

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:36 pm
by ti-amie



Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:08 pm
by ti-amie

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:13 pm
by ti-amie
Christine Pelosi @sfpelosi

#News: Madam Speaker got her lectern back. And she’s going to use it. Stay tuned.


Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:14 pm
by ti-amie

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:26 pm
by ti-amie
ti-amie wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:36 pm


Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:30 pm
by ponchi101
1,000 hollow point rounds.
You may think I am losing it. But I really believe these people are getting ready to assault the Capitol, fully armed. The level of lunacy from them is off the scale.
And it will be before the 20th, because, after all, once Biden is sworn in, he is president. And by now, nothing will stop them, not even Tiny conceding the election. Even if he does, they will say he is doing it in the name of peace. These people are no different from Jonestown.
It is scary.

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:47 pm
by ti-amie
Investigators pursuing signs US Capitol riot was planned

By Evan Perez, CNN Justice Correspondent
Updated 6:17 PM ET, Wed January 13, 2021

(CNN)Evidence uncovered so far, including weapons and tactics seen on surveillance video, suggests a level of planning that has led investigators to believe the attack on the US Capitol was not just a protest that spiraled out of control, a federal law enforcement official says.

Among the evidence the FBI is examining are indications that some participants at the Trump rally at the Ellipse, outside the White House, left the event early, perhaps to retrieve items to be used in the assault on the Capitol.

A team of investigators and prosecutors are also focused on the command and control aspect of the attack, looking at travel and communications records to determine if they can build a case that is similar to a counterterrorism investigation, the official said.

The belief, early in the probe, will demand significant investigation.

The presence of corruption prosecutors and agents is in part because of their expertise in financial investigations. "We are following the money," the official said.
By Wednesday morning, the FBI reported that it had received more than 126,000 digital tips from the public regarding the attack on the Capitol -- more than three times the number of tips received on Monday.

Among the thousands of tips the FBI received are some that appear to show members of Congress with people who later showed up at the Capitol riot, two law enforcement officials said. This doesn't mean members of Congress and staff are under investigation, but the FBI is checking the veracity of the claims, the officials said.


Counterterrorism strategy for arrests

At least some of the arrests already made are part of a strategy used in counterterrorism investigations, to find even a minimal charge and try to take a person of concern off the streets. That helps ease the possible threat amid concern about possible attacks on the inauguration, officials believe.

On January 4, for example, local police arrested the leader of the Proud Boys, Henry "Enrique" Tarrio, in Washington, DC.

Tarrio was taken into custody for allegedly burning a Black Lives Matter banner taken from a Black church last month during protests in the city after an earlier "Stop the Steal" rally. The Miami resident was charged with destruction of property related to the banner, however, federal authorities say they found Tarrio in possession of two high-capacity firearm magazines, prompting them to add a charge of Possession of High Capacity Feeding Device.

On Tuesday, federal authorities in New York City arrested Eduard Florea, 40, on at least one weapons charge after law enforcement, including the FBI and NYPD, responded to a Queens home in response to online postings about an armed caravan heading to the US Capitol, two law enforcement officials with knowledge of the investigation tells CNN.

Law enforcement sources told CNN that the man claims to be a Proud Boy and was arrested with live ammunition in the home.

Already, the public efforts by prosecutors and the FBI to encourage people who participated In the riot to turn themselves in is yielding fruit. Some attorneys have reached out to arrange for safe surrender of their clients in order to gain a measure of leniency and lessen the chance of a police raid on their homes, two officials said.

For instance, a counterterrorism prosecutor even appeared in court for an early hearing for one of the defendants on Tuesday, signaling how integrated the Justice Department's effort already is between the typical criminal prosecutors who handle initial criminal hearings and with the units focused on more complex crimes.

"With this strike force that was established to focus strictly on sedition charges, we're looking at in treating this just like a significant international counterterrorism or counterintelligence operation," DC US Attorney Michael Sherwin said Tuesday.

"We're looking at everything: money, travel records. Looking at disposition, movement, communication records. So no resource related to the FBI, or the US Attorney's Office will be unchecked in terms of trying to determine exactly if there was a command and control how it operated and how they executed these, these activities."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics ... index.html

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:40 am
by the Moz
Glad to see Pelosi opting to wear black today :thumbsup:

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:32 am
by dmforever
ti-amie wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:26 pm
ti-amie wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:36 pm

Just so you know, this picture wasn't of the group that went on the tour. Obviously it's still really alarming that she is having pictures taken with white supremacists, and it's great that they are investigating that group.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/laure ... tol-steps/

Kevin

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:39 am
by ti-amie

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:49 am
by ti-amie
the Moz wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:40 am Glad to see Pelosi opting to wear black today :thumbsup:
It's the same outfit she wore for the first impeachment. It's not a day to celebrate. What makes it so sad is if what was known about Tiny wasn't ignored. Noel Casler's podcast makes so much of it clear. People tried to warn about who this man is.

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:52 am
by ti-amie