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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:53 pm
by Deuce

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:24 am
by ti-amie
Deuce wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:53 pm .

Tursunov On Why He Left Raducanu...

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From the article:
Despite Raducanu's early success, Tursunov believes it would be "probably a two-and-a-half-year project" to help her get to the top of the game and that she needs stability in her coaching corner to achieve that.

"It’s going to take some time, but as I said to her and to pretty much everyone on her team: I think you just need to have one voice and just try that for a bit," Tursunov said. “The only difficult thing with her – that you actually have to do with every player – is trying to change certain things: she believed that she had to play a certain way. So I was trying to convince her to change that mindset and change her convictions about her own game... That’s what I was trying to do and there was maybe a minor difficulty with that but I think we got past that and were on the right track, and she was starting to trust me a little bit more. At least, that was my perception.”

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:04 am
by Owendonovan
Sounds like she's a bit screwed until she breaks from whoever is currently calling her shots.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:06 am
by ponchi101
Non tennis playing parents getting too involved?
Serious enquiry. I really do not know.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:33 pm
by ti-amie


Next stop Raducanu?

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:08 pm
by ti-amie
It seems Caroline Garcia and her coach have also parted ways...


Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:12 pm
by ti-amie
Of course you fire the person who took you from 75 in the world to #6 in the world. Isn't that how it's done?

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:53 pm
by ponchi101
Or leads you to a US Open title.
I really do not know how they reach these decisions.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:24 am
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:53 pm Or leads you to a US Open title.
I really do not know how they reach these decisions.
We're not meant to. We're watching from a long distance away, and it's also pretty personal. Maybe a tennis insider has some meaningful insight, but even then, it's a lot of hearsay.

Part of Emma's learning curve and growing pains. She'll probably figure it out.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:02 am
by Deuce
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:24 am
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:53 pm Or leads you to a US Open title.
I really do not know how they reach these decisions.
We're not meant to. We're watching from a long distance away, and it's also pretty personal. Maybe a tennis insider has some meaningful insight, but even then, it's a lot of hearsay.

Part of Emma's learning curve and growing pains. She'll probably figure it out.
Granted - but her ongoing coaching soap opera does stand out as being quite unusual - and not in a positive way, as Tursunov pointed out.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:38 am
by ponchi101
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:24 am
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:53 pm Or leads you to a US Open title.
I really do not know how they reach these decisions.
We're not meant to. We're watching from a long distance away, and it's also pretty personal. Maybe a tennis insider has some meaningful insight, but even then, it's a lot of hearsay.

Part of Emma's learning curve and growing pains. She'll probably figure it out.
I will only add that most of the great ones had long relations with their coaches.
Borg/Bergellin, Connors/Segura and his mom, Lendl/Roche, Rafa/Toni, Martina/Lieberman, etc.
It seems to pay off.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:12 am
by Suliso
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:24 am
We're not meant to. We're watching from a long distance away, and it's also pretty personal. Maybe a tennis insider has some meaningful insight, but even then, it's a lot of hearsay.

Part of Emma's learning curve and growing pains. She'll probably figure it out.
Possibly, but some people never do. Not just in tennis...

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:20 pm
by meganfernandez
Suliso wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:12 am
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:24 am
We're not meant to. We're watching from a long distance away, and it's also pretty personal. Maybe a tennis insider has some meaningful insight, but even then, it's a lot of hearsay.

Part of Emma's learning curve and growing pains. She'll probably figure it out.
Possibly, but some people never do. Not just in tennis...
Yeah, of course. Nothing is a foregone conclusion in life. But I'd bet on the combination of talent, time and resources to come through. I'm an optimist.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:28 pm
by JazzNU
Raducanu - @ponchi, no one seemed to answer your question - yes, there is a parent (father) who is controlling everything and it appears quite problematic.

Andreescu - that seems like a good split to me. Sven is a good coach, but hasn't seemed to know how to get the most out of Bianca's game, it felt like he was encouraging her do to less of what made her special. As long as she keeps her fitness trainer and physio, who were the ones who have kept her healthy after so many injuries and made her realize she was hurting herself and her career by pushing too much once injured the way her previous team seemed to encourage, I think this will be a positive for her.

Garcia - from what I saw, Caroline did not ditch her coach, her coach ditched her. He seems to have gotten fed up and is done. What happened? The quotes I saw were somewhat heated, but generic. He wasn't having fun coaching her anymore and was done, didn't want to fake it thru the WTA Finals. Who knows what the heck happened, but here's hoping she gets coaching help from the FFT in the meantime and not her father.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:42 pm
by ponchi101
I knew that Emma's parents were involved las year, but thought they had dialed it down after last year.
Thanks for the correction.