Talk About Tennis 2.0

Never mind, saw the Tsurenko quotes posted above!

Iga broke back but that game was a war.

Owendonovan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:04 am It's not a judgement, I don't like people airing their laundry in public and I don't like people who yell at other people privately or publicly. It's emotionally immature.

Come on, Owen, of course it's a judgement - and a powerful one at that. Your dislike of him comes through loud and clear. You've judged him as being rude, immature, bratty - whatever labels you want to put on him - and as being completely unworthy of your support because of your negative judgement/assessment of what you perceive is his character, based on a very small sample size, and without knowing anything about him other than the few things you've seen on TV.

But I've also seen you criticize people for being judgemental.
I've said many times that those who criticize others for being judgemental are often the most judgemental people of all. I've seen this an infinite number of times from people.
And it's fine to be judgemental - it's absolute human nature to judge and assess everything and everyone... It's actually part of our basic survival instinct. And so anyone who claims to be 'non-judgemental' is either not human, or is a liar.
We all make dozens of judgements every single day - from choosing our favourite cereal to differentiating between our friends and our enemies.
The key is to judge based on a fair sample size, and on relevant criteria, and to not PRE-judge, as that is where the word 'prejudice' comes from.

My problem with judgements is that too many people are very critical of others forming negative judgements about people or things that they themselves like, while giving a free pass to themselves and the people they like who negatively judge other people and things that they don't like.

After losing a close 1st set 5-7, Taylor and Leylah have just won the 2nd set 6-3 from Krejcikova/Siniakova.
What exactly is going on here? Taylor and Leylah are playing doubles here for the first time together, and their opponents are one of the best women's doubles teams ever...
Is one of the Czech women physically ill?

Going to the silly 'match tiebreak' now...

Game five first set was another battle royale between Iga and Andreescu. Iga came out on top for 3-2 on serve but I wonder if either woman will be able to play like this an entire match.

OK, I've judged someone badly for behaving badly, weird. The homophobic stuff doesn't help his case much either. He can always redeem himself, he's young.

Iga breaks and consolidates for 5-2. Andreescu already threw a mini tantrum sitting down on the court.

The cream rose to the top in the doubles match - Krejcikova/Siniakova won the stupid tiebreak thing that relaces a proper 3rd set 10-7.
But Leylah and Taylor won 71 points in the match to the Czechs' 70!
Strange - but whenever any doubles team plays those two that close, they can take pride in their performance.

Emma looked good in her match against Haddad Maia. Not sure it means much, but it was definitely more on the side of her top level. But I don't get the impression this is the Haddad Maia's best surface where she plays to where her current ranking is. So I'd like to see more against better competition before I'm thinking this is officially a turnaround for Emma. But she looked good against high ranked opponent today, so that's something.

ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:00 am Iga breaks and consolidates for 5-2. Andreescu already threw a mini tantrum sitting down on the court.

She's mad about many, many missed opportunities in the game when Swiatek held with the wind. According to the commentators, wind is playing a major factor in the match, so you need to take all the opportunities you have when you're on the side with it.

Despite all of the hard hitting and long rallies Iga takes the first set 6-3.

Meanwhile, on the men's side, the old Brit and the young Brit have begun their battle.
5-5 in the 1st...

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:06 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:23 am Not paying too much attention to the men because if alcaraz is fit there is no real contest..only Zverev to be considered...Fritz doing well as expected, Sinner struggling, also as expected, on a slow court..
Very interested to see if Kvitova can beat Pegula..she should, but...

Are you watching the match? Mannarino is just showing how a compact game can make others go nuts. Sinner is not struggling; Mannarino is playing wonderful, counter attacking tennis.

No, am at the court, playing myself..sinful

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:12 am

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:06 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:23 am Not paying too much attention to the men because if alcaraz is fit there is no real contest..only Zverev to be considered...Fritz doing well as expected, Sinner struggling, also as expected, on a slow court..
Very interested to see if Kvitova can beat Pegula..she should, but...

Are you watching the match? Mannarino is just showing how a compact game can make others go nuts. Sinner is not struggling; Mannarino is playing wonderful, counter attacking tennis.

No, am at the court, playing myself..sinful

Envy you. Hope you are playing like Mannarino; you should win

Owendonovan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:52 am OK, I've judged someone badly for behaving badly, weird. The homophobic stuff doesn't help his case much either. He can always redeem himself, he's young.

I'm fully in support of you holding that against him for however long you want to. For me, someone shows me they are racist, I assume their "redemption" is PR spin or in real life, something they are doing to be more accepted, not truly them being a better person. I might tolerate them in the future if I must, but I'll never forget.