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Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:17 pm
by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:51 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:37 pm Agree.
But we know the WTA. From SHOULD to WILL.... there's a little stretch. And as you say, Har Tru is a peculiar surface. Don't know how much Bencin plays on it.
Well, bencic is defending champion
yes. JazzNu pointed that out to me, so my argument is, at very best, BS ;)

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:20 pm
by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:50 am Sloane is possibly a Tier 1 player, certainly higher tier than Keys...
Sloane WAS a top player. Right now, her record does not merit that.
Maddie SHOULD be a top level player. But she has always been a mystery to me: with those strokes, only 1 slam final is too little. And I don't agree she is too slow. She is as fast as Petra or Mugu, and those made it to a higher level.
She is the one WTA forehand I would trade for.

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:19 pm
by ti-amie
Keys, in my opinion, is not a top player. I was watching her play nepo-baby Navarro and she still doesn't think well on court. As has been mentioned her foot work and therefore her speed is not top notch. There were several shots where a deft touch would've won the point but instead she blasted the ball and missed. Yes she won 4&3 but she was playing Navarro.

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:27 pm
by JazzNU
Everyone seems to be missing my point about Madison. I'm not saying she's in top form right now. I never once claimed that. I'm saying, put everyone in this draw in their top form on this surface, I choose Keys to win this tournament. If she's playing her best, but so is Bencic, Pegula, Azarenka, Svitolina, Jabeur, and Stephens, I'm picking Madison on this surface. And it's because she's played this tournament extremely well over the years.

After Stuttgart, this is my favorite tournament to watch on tour most years. I've seen a ton of matches played by so many players because this was always a tournament that got aired in full on TV, the rare full week coverage even when Tennis Channel didn't exist. Of the many matches that I've watched, there's probably only three players that I've seen on this surface that I'd pick over Madison if everyone plays up to their best level.

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:01 pm
by ti-amie

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:02 pm
by ti-amie


Rogers is up 3-0 in the third set.

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:21 pm
by ti-amie
GSM Shelby Rogers 6-7(2), 6-4, 6-1 over collins

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:10 pm
by ti-amie
Day 5 Order of Play

Credit One Stadium

Starts at 11:00 AM

ESP P. BADOSA (12) vs CAN L. FERNANDEZ
FOLLOWED BY
USA H. BAPTISTE vs USA M. KEYS (9)
FOLLOWED BY
USA J. PEGULA (1)
vs RUS A. BLINKOVA
NOT BEFORE 7:00 PM
USA C. MCNALLY vs USA S. ROGERS
FOLLOWED BY
SUI B. BENCIC (4)
vs CAN K. SEBOV

Althea Gibson
Starts at 11:00 AM

USA M. BRENGLE vs RUS D. KASATKINA (3)
FOLLOWED BY
CZE L. FRUHVIRTOVA vs USA C. DOLEHIDE
FOLLOWED BY
USA S. KENIN vs ROU I. BEGU (15)
FOLLOWED BY
POL M. LINETTE (8)
vs RUS V. GRACHEVA
FOLLOWED BY
MEX G. OLMOS/JPN E. SHIBAHARA (1) vs RUS Y. SIZIKOVA/INA A. SUTJIADI

Court 3
Starts at 11:00 AM

RUS D. SHNAIDER vs RUS V. KUDERMETOVA (5)
FOLLOWED BY
KAZ Y. PUTINTSEVA vs RUS E. ALEXANDROVA (7)
FOLLOWED BY
GBR A. BARNETT/GBR O. NICHOLLS vs USA N. MELICHAR-MARTINEZ/USA A. PARKS (4)
FOLLOWED BY
POL K. KAWA/POL A. ROSOLSKA vs CAN L. FERNANDEZ/USA T. TOWNSEND

Court 4
Starts at 11:00 AM

AUT J. GRABHER vs USA S. VICKERY
FOLLOWED BY
ESP C. BUCSA vs USA B. PERA
FOLLOWED BY
GER L. SIEGEMUND/RUS V. ZVONAREVA vs CZE M. BOUZKOVA/JPN M. KATO
FOLLOWED BY
USA D. COLLINS/USA D. KRAWCZYK vs ESP C. BUCSA/KAZ A. DANILINA

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:02 am
by JazzNU
I think getting called out on the high number of retirements/withdrawals is the only reason Tsurenko finished out that match.

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:26 am
by Deuce
A little chat with little known Canadian Katherine Sebov, whose main 'claim to fame' up until this year was the on-court 'fight' she had with Alycia Parks (whom I think behaves like a 'diva' on court - without having the results/credentials to back it up).

I've seen Sebov play live several times, and, apart from seeming like a genuinely nice and down to Earth person, I've felt that her tennis is basically Challenger level.
But she is having a very good year thus far this year (note in the interview, she says that the main change in her game has been psychological).

She does the "Come On" yell too often and too loud for my liking - but other than that, I'm happy that she's finally doing well at the top level.
(That said, I do expect Bencic to beat her rather routinely.)


Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:50 am
by ashkor87
Jabeur could do well here, hope she is recovered.. she stays low, has great balance, much needed on this slippery surface...and slices and drops are always effective here precisely because it is slippery...

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:40 am
by ashkor87
Getting a bit concerned about Danielle Collins..is it an injury or an autoimmune condition she has?

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:55 pm
by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:40 am Getting a bit concerned about Danielle Collins..is it an injury or an autoimmune condition she has?
If I recall well, it had something to do with cramps? She talked about it.
But indeed, her results since that Aussie final last year have been very bad. The descent down the rankings has been steep and fast.

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:54 pm
by mmmm8
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:55 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:40 am Getting a bit concerned about Danielle Collins..is it an injury or an autoimmune condition she has?
If I recall well, it had something to do with cramps? She talked about it.
But indeed, her results since that Aussie final last year have been very bad. The descent down the rankings has been steep and fast.
She has rheumatoid arthritis and endometriosis, two separate conditions.

Endometriosis is a painful condition, tissue that is typically in the uterus overgrows outside the uterus. Symptoms like pain, bleeding and fatigue present at any time, not only during menstruation, so it's not just cramps.

Rheumatoid arthritis of course means joint pain.

Re: WTA 500 Charleston 4/3 - 4/9 2023

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:03 pm
by ashkor87
Thought so . Autoimmune disorders with no known cure ..