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Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:42 pm
by ashkor87
Presumably Muchova, Jabeur etc are in field?

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:45 pm
by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:42 pm Presumably Muchova, Jabeur etc are in field?
Yes. I believe that Jabeur has not recovered, and since we have seen nothing on grass from Muchova, I am not sure.
Mind you, I believe her game can translate very well to grass. But, no data, so I don't know.

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:49 am
by ashkor87
Jabeur seems to be back, at least, playing .at Eastbourne..

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:54 pm
by ponchi101
One guy that did well last year, and now seems like, at best, a 3R loss: Fritz. Three tournaments played, zero wins.
Could be a good pick for 1R. Depending on opponent.

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:56 pm
by Suliso
Don't do it. He could surprise you with a R1 loss or QF's.

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:42 pm
by ponchi101
Remember me? The guy who picked Gracheva to beat Sloane at RG?
I do do those sort of things...

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:26 pm
by Owendonovan
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:03 pm Apparently her brother is getting married around now, so presumably she is otherwise engaged..after the French, she said she is playing Berlin and Eastbourne..she did play berlin
The only true love happening in the tennis world right now is Stefanos and Paula.

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:48 pm
by jazzyg
Actually, Fritz got one win. It was against another player (Karatsev) on my Green Acres team. Karatsev had a set point in the opening set and the commentators predicted he could go deep at Wimbledon with the right draw. It turns out he fared by far the worst against Fritz of anyone in the three tournaments.

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:29 am
by ashkor87
Swiatek is looking formidable on grass...time to update my estimates-
Women-
Rybakina 30%
Swiatek 25%
Kvitova 10%
Muchova 10%
Ostapenko 10%
Sabalenka 5%
Jabeur 5%

Field 5%

Men
Djokovic 60%
Alcaraz 39%
Field 1%

Sinner may not be a factor...

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:37 am
by ponchi101
Rybakina. She has not played that much, because she has had a virus. Who knows what she has but, if this thing is still lingering since RG, why assume she will get better before next Monday?
Swiatek. I know you are passionate about your positions but: Iga lost a set to Maria, and just beat Clay Court Specialist Teichmann. "Formidable" is quite a statement ;)
Jabeur. Just lost to Giorgi 3&2. And you still give her a better chance than, for example, Kvitova?
Muchova. No data at all. She will go into Wimby with no matches on grass. Tall order for somebody not named Williams, Graf or Navratilova.
Sabalenka. Ok, we agree.

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:42 am
by ashkor87
Updated again to reduce Jabeur and bring in Ostapenko..you are right about Kvitova, need to consider her..
though jabeur losing to Giorgi could happen to anyone...she is a force of nature, no insurance available against her!

It is only because of Rybakina's illness that so many people have a chance ..I have never given 7 players a nonzero chance!

I am watching how comfortable Swiatek is looking..and remember she is a W junior champion! And her coach has worked with Radwanska ..

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:09 am
by ashkor87
Re Swiatek and her game not being suited to grass, technically Nadal should never have won Wimbledon either - though he won 'only' twice!

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 6:48 am
by skatingfan
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:09 am Re Swiatek and her game not being suited to grass, technically Nadal should never have won Wimbledon either - though he won 'only' twice!
Nadal, particularly early in his career, really prioritized winning Wimbledon, and playing well on grass. How many times was he playing Queens just days after he'd won the French Open? Whether Swiatek wants to work on her game & push that hard to win Wimbledon remains to be seen.

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:03 am
by ashkor87
possibly, Nadal was motivated by the presence of Federer.. I wonder if Rybakina is enough to motivate Swiatek.. probably not!?

Re: An early look at Wimbledon

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:09 pm
by ashkor87
Suliso wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:27 pm As for Rybakina I don't think she's "2 straight Wimbledon titles" good. 20% chance of that happening maybe? Sabalenka is the true favorite.
I think priors matter..given that Rybakina has one, versus if she had none, makes a difference. I have reduced my bet on her ONLY because of the viral .
Sabalenka isn't really that good on grass, I think .movement .