by ti-amie CENTRE COURT - 1:30PM

1. Ladies' Singles - Fourth Round
Beatriz Haddad Maia (BRA) [13] v Elena Rybakina (KAZ) [3]
2. Ladies' Singles - Fourth Round
Ons Jabeur (TUN) [6] v Petra Kvitova (CZE) [9]
3. Gentlemen's Singles - Fourth Round
Carlos Alcaraz (ESP) [1] v Matteo Berrettini (ITA)

NO.1 COURT - 1:00PM

1. Gentlemen's Singles - Fourth Round
Daniil Medvedev [3] v Jiri Lehecka (CZE)
2. Ladies' Singles - Fourth Round
Ekaterina Alexandrova [21] v Aryna Sabalenka [2]
3. Gentlemen's Singles - Fourth Round
Grigor Dimitrov (BUL) [21] v Holger Rune (DEN) [6]

NO.2 COURT - 11:00AM

1. Ladies' Singles - Fourth Round
Madison Keys (USA) [25] v Mirra Andreeva
2. Gentlemen's Singles - Fourth Round
Christopher Eubanks (USA) v Stefanos Tsitsipas (GRE) [5]
3. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Santiago Gonzalez (MEX) / Edouard Roger-Vasselin (FRA) [5] v Toby Samuel (GBR) / Connor Thomson (GBR)

NO.3 COURT - 11:00AM

1. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Jacob Fearnley (GBR) / Johannus Monday (GBR) v Rohan Bopanna (IND) / Matthew Ebden (AUS) [6]
2. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Wesley Koolhof (NED) / Neal Skupski (GBR) [1] v Rinky Hijikata (AUS) / Jason Kubler (AUS)
3. Mixed Doubles - Second Round
Kevin Krawietz (GER) / Zhaoxuan Yang (CHN) v Matthew Ebden (AUS) / Ellen Perez (AUS) [5]
Not Before: 4:30pm
4. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Victoria Azarenka / Beatriz Haddad Maia (BRA) [14] v Laura Siegemund (GER) / Vera Zvonareva

COURT 12 - 11:00AM

1. Ladies' Doubles - Third Round
Caroline Garcia (FRA) / Luisa Stefani (BRA) v Timea Babos (HUN) / Kirsten Flipkens (BEL)
2. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Robert Galloway (USA) / Lloyd Harris (RSA) v Ivan Dodig (CRO) / Austin Krajicek (USA) [2]
3. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Nikola Mektic (CRO) / Mate Pavic (CRO) [9] v Francisco Cabral (POR) / Rafael Matos (BRA)
Not Before: 4:30pm
4. Mixed Doubles - Second Round
Ivan Dodig (CRO) / Latisha Chan (TPE) v Joe Salisbury (GBR) / Heather Watson (GBR)

COURT 18 - 11:00AM

1. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Ariel Behar (URU) / Adam Pavlasek (CZE) v Fabrice Martin (FRA) / Andreas Mies (GER) [8]
2. Ladies' Doubles - Third Round
Naiktha Bains (GBR) / Maia Lumsden (GBR) v Viktoria Hruncakova (SVK) / Tereza Mihalikova (SVK)
3. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Sadio Doumbia (FRA) / Fabien Reboul (FRA) v Marcelo Melo (BRA) / John Peers (AUS) [16]
Not Before: 4:30pm
4. Mixed Doubles - Second Round
Marcelo Arevalo (ESA) / Marta Kostyuk (UKR) v Jamie Murray (GBR) / Taylor Townsend (USA)

COURT 4 - 11:00AM

1. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Rebecca Munk Mortensen (DEN) v Ella McDonald (GBR) [11]
2. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Mingge Xu (GBR) v Kaitlin Quevedo (USA) [6]
3. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Mika Stojsavljevic (GBR) v Lucciana Perez Alarcon (PER) [4]
4. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Isabelle Lacy (GBR) v Clervie Ngounoue (USA) [2]
5. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Antoine Ghibaudo (FRA) / Kyle Kang (USA) v Viktor Frydrych (GBR) / Phoenix Weir (GBR)

COURT 5 - 11:00AM

1. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Hugo Coquelin (GBR) / Luca Pow (GBR) v Branko Djuric (SRB) / Arthur Gea (FRA) [6]
2. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Sara Saito (JPN) [3] v Francesca Pace (ITA)
3. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Alanis Hamilton (USA) v Ena Koike (JPN) [8]
4. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Alina Korneeva [1] v Vendula Valdmannova (CZE)
5. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Petr Brunclik (CZE) / Cooper Woestendick (USA) v Thijs Boogaard (NED) / Abel Forger (NED)

COURT 6 - 11:00AM

1. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Jakub Filip (CZE) / Gabriele Vulpitta (ITA) v Hayden Jones (AUS) / Alexander Razeghi (USA)
2. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Emerson Jones (AUS) [13] v Tatum Evans (USA)
3. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Sayaka Ishii (JPN) [7] v Laura Samsonova (CZE)
4. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Henry Jefferson (GBR) / Charlie Robertson (GBR) v Joao Fonseca (BRA) / Juan Carlos Prado Angelo (BOL) [2]
5. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Maxim Mrva (CZE) / Joel Schwaerzler (AUT) [5] v Paul Barbier Gazeu (FRA) / Vuk Radjenovic (SRB)

COURT 7 - 11:00AM

1. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Tereza Valentova (CZE) [10] v Taylah Preston (AUS)
2. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Rositsa Dencheva (BUL) v Ela Nala Milic (SLO)
3. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Alejandro Melero Kretzer (ESP) / Rodrigo Pacheco Mendez (MEX) [3] v Vit Kalina (CZE) / Matic Kriznik (SLO)
4. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Nicolai Budkov Kjaer (NOR) / Sebastian Eriksson (SWE) v Jan Hrazdil (CZE) / Rei Sakamoto (JPN)
5. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Mihai Alexandru Coman (ROU) / Kevin Edengren (SWE) v Kaylan Bigun (USA) / Yi Zhou (CHN)

COURT 8 - 11:00AM

1. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Hephzibah Oluwadare (GBR) v Nikola Bartunkova (CZE)
2. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Freddy Blaydes (GBR) / Benjamin Gusic Wan (GBR) v Fabio De Michele (ITA) / David Fix (GER)
3. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Ranah Akua Stoiber (GBR) v Charo Esquiva Banuls (ESP) [16]
4. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Malak El Allami (MAR) v Hannah Klugman (GBR)
5. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Oliver Bonding (GBR) / Charlie Camus (AUS) v Darwin Blanch (USA) / Roy Horovitz (USA) [7]

COURT 14 - 11:00AM

1. Ladies' Doubles - Third Round
Fang-Hsien Wu (TPE) / Lin Zhu (CHN) v Caroline Dolehide (USA) / Shuai Zhang (CHN) [16]
2. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Marie Bouzkova (CZE) / Sara Sorribes Tormo (ESP) v Hao-Ching Chan (TPE) / Latisha Chan (TPE) [12]
3. Girls' Singles - Second Round
Renata Jamrichova (SVK) [5] v Ariana Anazagasty-Pursoo (USA)
4. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Tomasz Berkieta (POL) / Henry Searle (GBR) [8] v Duncan Chan (CAN) / Keegan Rice (CAN)
5. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Fernando Cavallo (ARG) / Ignacio Parisca (VEN) v Volodymyr Iakubenko (UKR) / Lorenzo Sciahbasi (ITA)

COURT 15 - 11:00AM

1. Ladies' Doubles - Third Round
Lidziya Marozava / Ingrid Martins (BRA) v Oksana Kalashnikova (GEO) / Iryna Shymanovich
2. Ladies' Doubles - Third Round
Miyu Kato (JPN) / Aldila Sutjiadi (INA) [13] v Su-Wei Hsieh (TPE) / Barbora Strycova (CZE)
3. Mixed Doubles - Second Round
Nicolas Mahut (FRA) / Anna Danilina (KAZ) v Andrea Vavassori (ITA) / Liudmila Samsonova
4. Mixed Doubles - Second Round
Jean-Julien Rojer (NED) / Ena Shibahara (JPN) [8] v Matwe Middelkoop (NED) / Aldila Sutjiadi (INA)
5. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Carlo Alberto Caniato (ITA) / Filippo Romano (ITA) v Jangjun Kim (KOR) / Hayato Matsuoka (JPN)

COURT 17 - 11:00AM

1. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Miriam Kolodziejova (CZE) / Marketa Vondrousova (CZE) v Marta Kostyuk (UKR) / Elena-Gabriela Ruse (ROU) [15]
2. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Alejandro Davidovich Fokina (ESP) / Adrian Mannarino (FRA) v Hugo Nys (MON) / Jan Zielinski (POL) [4]
3. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Romain Arneodo (MON) / Sam Weissborn (AUT) v Sander Gille (BEL) / Joran Vliegen (BEL) [12]
4. Mixed Doubles - Second Round
Wesley Koolhof (NED) / Leylah Fernandez (CAN) [4] v Jonny O'Mara (GBR) / Olivia Nicholls (GBR)
5. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Yaroslav Demin / Cooper Williams (USA) [1] v Max Dahlin (SWE) / Mees Rottgering (NED)

TO BE ARRANGED 1 -
Not Before: 4:00pm
1. Boys' Doubles - First Round
Federico Bondioli (ITA) / Federico Cina (ITA) v Adriano Dzhenev (BUL) / Iliyan Radulov (BUL) [4]

The Committee, while adhering as closely as possible to the order of play given, is unable to guarantee that it will be maintained in
its entirety.
This may result in matches being moved from one court to another. GERRY ARMSTRONG - REFEREE

by ashkor87 I didnt know players scheculed to play second on Centre court have to be ready and waiting in the locker room almost from the moment the first match begins.. it could be 3-4 hours! they would be totally depleted by then.. this rule needs to be fixed if it is really so..

by ashkor87 lots of great matches today..Berrettini v Alcaraz is being touted as a very close one - I dont see it.. Alcaraz will pound Berretini's backhand and that will be that..

by ashkor87 really looking forward to Jabeur - Kvitova - contrasting styles.. love to watch them both, too bad one of them has to lose.. both are fun to watch, in different ways.. For me, it is the most watchable match today.. hoping Djoko can finish off Hubie, else it will get too late for me! .. last night, I was up till 1 am watching Bencic-Swiatek, had to be up at 530 to play, couldnt move my feet at all.. will have to take a nap to catch up!

by JTContinental Alexandra Stevenson and her sultry letter s is in full effect at the Keys/Andreeva match

by Suliso Who was saying here that Andreeva is a great draw for Keys? ;)

by JTContinental Keys broke early for 2-0 in the first set, then Andreeva has won 12 out of the last 13 games. She does not miss much, which is trouble for Keys' game.

by Suliso I watched part of her match with Potapova and in principle it should be possible to blast winners past her. Obviously at 16 her game is not yet fully developed.

by JTContinental Yes, her second serve is below average. I don't think she'll challenge any of the top players left in the draw, but she's on fire today.

by Suliso I think she'd beat Alexandrova, but it's unlikely we'll see that much even if Keys does not recover. Sabalenka ought to be too strong for now at least.

by ashkor87 They showed the great Martina practicing...that is one of the charms of W..wondering around the grounds and suddenly..
.

by meganfernandez
Suliso wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:45 am Who was saying here that Andreeva is a great draw for Keys? ;)
Me, and it was. If she can't keep her UFEs down enough to win, shame on her. it was a great draw. And the match is't over!

I started watching at 3-4 in the second, and it was child's play for Keys for the most part. Andreeva didn't do anything but rally solidly. It looks to be completely on Keys's racket.

by skatingfan Andreeva had 4-1 in the 2nd set, but now a set-all.

by JTContinental Keys steadied her nerves when she was down a set and 1-4 and won the second set in a tiebreak. Andreeva is getting petulant.

by meganfernandez Andreeva chucked her racket after losing the first set. Not lightly. Flung it straight forward. Could have taken a bad bounce.

by meganfernandez
JTContinental wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:34 am Keys steadied her nerves when she was down a set and 1-4 and won the second set in a tiebreak. Andreeva is getting petulant.
Experience. Stamina. Power. :) Andreeva started playing like a junior - only high percentage shots, no drop shots, nothing aggressive. Keys changed her tactics, too. But Andreeva completely abandoned what got her there and isn't putting any pressure on Keys. It is completely on Keys's racket now. Hopefully she will hold her nerve until the end.

by meganfernandez
meganfernandez wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:50 am Andreeva chucked her racket after losing the first set. Not lightly. Flung it straight forward. Could have taken a bad bounce.
Wow... Andreeva got a warning when she flung the racket, and she got a point penalty for doing it again serving at 2-5 deuce. She argued that she was falling and let it go - she slipped and was about to go over on her ankle. But she whipped the racket, didn't just let it go.

Maddy put it away on the next point and Andreeva didn't shake the umpire's hand. Petulant is right.

by JTContinental Andreeva imploded at the end of the match. She got a point penalty for throwing her racquet to give Keys a match point and argued with the chair umpire that she "slipped." After she lost, she gave Keys the limp wrist handshake, ignored the chair umpire and stomped off.

by jazzyg What a fantastic win for Keys.

Andreeva did not miss a ball from 0-2 in the first set until she was up 4-1 with a break point for 5-1 in the second set, and she played her best on every big point, so this was not always on Keys' racquet. But once Keys got back on serve in the second set, Andreeva showed her age and started missing the routine shots she was perfect on for a set-and-a-half. Her drive-by handshake at the end was weak, again, hopefully because of her age.

by jazzyg Andreeva did slip. She definitely threw her racquet, but I don't think she would have done it if she had not slipped.

by meganfernandez
JTContinental wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:15 pm Andreeva imploded at the end of the match. She got a point penalty for throwing her racquet to give Keys a match point and argued with the chair umpire that she "slipped." After she lost, she gave Keys the limp wrist handshake, ignored the chair umpire and stomped off.


I think it was a pretty harsh call. Yeah, she dropped it in frustration more than safety. But it's like bouncing the racket on the top of the frame when you miss a shot. It's not really a racket throw or smash.

by jazzyg I like Lehecka to beat Medvedev today.

He has been hitting the ball incredibly well all tournament and showed incredible fortitude to win the fifth set against Paul 6-2 after challenging a call on match point in the fourth-set tiebreak when the match would have been over if he had not challenged. Paul's shot hit the baseline, and Lehecka thought his response was going out, but it actually skipped off the opposite baseline or just inside of it and Paul would have missed the next shot. Instead of imploding after losing a two-set lead in two excruciatingly close tiebreaks, Lehecka dominated the fifth set.

This is a big match for Medvedev. He's obviously a better overall player than Lehecka, so let's see if he can beat him on grass.

by Suliso So far so good for Medvedev. No break points against his serve yet.

by meganfernandez BHM and Lehecka both retired from their matches. That's one way to fix the schedules.

by ponchi101 Andreeva's code violation.
I thought the rule was that IF you throw your racquet AND you break it, you get the code violations. If now you are going to go to the point that if you throw/drop the racquet, that is going to be a gray area.
And, to me, that did not merit any sort of code violations. She did stumble.
The limp handshake and not shaking the umps hand is silly. It was not Keys' fault, and the ump, well, you still shake hands.
She is 16. I hope somebody will pull her aside and explain a bit more. And listen to what she has to say.

by jazzyg Maybe I should have checked the score of Medvedev-Lehecka before my previous post. Medvedev was already up a break in the first set.

Lehecka had a bad blister on his foot and could not move or change direction. Credit to him for trying to play for two sets with zero chance to win.

by skatingfan I was wrong - Hurkacz regroups today, and wins the 3rd set.

by ponchi101
skatingfan wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:21 pm I was wrong - Hurkacz regroups today, and wins the 3rd set.
WE were wrong. I thought this would simply take the place of Novak's daily practice routine.

by skatingfan Djokovic is a bit annoyed at the moment. He had some slips late in the 3rd set, and he's just a bit frustrated at not making more progress against Hurkacz's serve.

by skatingfan Eubanks to serve for the 4th set against Tsitsipas.

by jazzyg Midway through the fourth set, Tsitsipas had lost 13 points on his serve through 17 service games plus a tiebreak.

Since then, he had to save a break point in one game and got broken in the next.

by Suliso
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:33 pm
skatingfan wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:21 pm I was wrong - Hurkacz regroups today, and wins the 3rd set.
WE were wrong. I thought this would simply take the place of Novak's daily practice routine.
You won't really be wrong. It will just take an extra 40 min, that's all.

by skatingfan Djokovic locks down on Hurkacz's serve in the 7th game, and breaks for a 4-3 lead.

by ponchi101 And Eubanks is about to knock me, and several others, from the SP because he is already one break up in the 5th.
And with that serve, he has a very good chance.

by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:46 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:33 pm
skatingfan wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:21 pm I was wrong - Hurkacz regroups today, and wins the 3rd set.
WE were wrong. I thought this would simply take the place of Novak's daily practice routine.
You won't really be wrong. It will just take an extra 40 min, that's all.
A bit longer, but the same result as ever.

by ashkor87 Great win by Sabalenka..played much better than I expected.. Alexandrova also did not serve well enough...

by ponchi101 Suliso was mentioning that there are no signs that Sabalenka even remembers the RG SF. She is playing solid tennis.
I say the winner of the Sabalenka/Rybakina SF (if they make it there) will have the upper hand against Iga in the final. If she makes it there.

by jazzyg The Eubanks win against Tsitsipas is one of the most unlikely I've ever seen given the run of play.

Before the match, you could have made a legitimate case for Eubanks winning based on his form and Tsitsipas' form, but not after Eubanks pretty much set a slam record for returning ineptitude through three-and-a-half sets and got broken four times, winning a total of five points in the four games he lost on serve. He won only one point against serve in the tiebreak he won, and that came on a double fault.

Somehow, he got his return game together with some help from Tsitsipas and hit some huge shots when he needed them.

by skatingfan Yeah Christopher.

by skatingfan Jabeur just hit a drop shot winner off a Kvitova 2nd serve to break for the 3rd time in the first set - 5-0.

by atlpam
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:53 pm Andreeva's code violation.
I thought the rule was that IF you throw your racquet AND you break it, you get the code violations. If now you are going to go to the point that if you throw/drop the racquet, that is going to be a gray area.
And, to me, that did not merit any sort of code violations. She did stumble.
The lip handshake and not shaking the umps hand is silly. It was not Keys' fault, and the ump, well, you still shake hands.
She is 16. I hope somebody will pull her aside and explain a bit more. And listen to what she has to say.
I think it may also be court abuse since the racket can do damage to the grass court surface, so I don’t think it’s just for throwing the racket.

by ponchi101 Serious here, not putting you on. Is there a COURT ABUSE clause in the code?

by skatingfan
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:42 pm Serious here, not putting you on. Is there a COURT ABUSE clause in the code?
There is for Wimbledon.

by Suliso I expected more from Kvitova.

by nelslus
Suliso wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:06 pm I expected more from Kvitova.
.....Ya think?!?! :D

Not shocked that she lost- although, obviously, I was hoping she would win today, especially with their H2H record. But....that score? Really sad- could be her worst result ever. Uggggghhhhh. :cry:

by skatingfan That was impressive from Jabeur.

by jazzyg I can't wait for the Jabeur-Rybakina match.

I really felt Jabeur should have won the final last year, but the moment got to her after she won the first set. Rybakina is playing even better this year than last year, though. I just want to see Jabeur fight all the way and not panic or get down on herself. I have no prediction on the result, but I enjoy watching Jabeur play 100 times more than Rybakina.

Kvitova simply is not good at Wimbledon anymore, failing to reach the quarterfinal since her last victory. People keep looking for something that is not there with her one-dimensional game and up-and-down ball-striking.

by nelslus HOWEVER....

GO CHRIS!!!!!!!!!!!! (I just woke up. We went to the Chicago qualies yesterday- and me and heat do not work. :gorgeous: )

by meganfernandez
jazzyg wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:32 pm I can't wait for the Jabeur-Rybakina match.

I really felt Jabeur should have won the final last year, but the moment got to her after she won the first set. Rybakina is playing even better this year than last year, though. I just want to see Jabeur fight all the way and not panic or get down on herself. I have no prediction on the result, but I enjoy watching Jabeur play 100 times more than Rybakina.
I think it's on Rybakina's racket. She can be inconsistent, though. I expect her to win.

by jazzyg
meganfernandez wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:39 pm
jazzyg wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:32 pm I can't wait for the Jabeur-Rybakina match.

I really felt Jabeur should have won the final last year, but the moment got to her after she won the first set. Rybakina is playing even better this year than last year, though. I just want to see Jabeur fight all the way and not panic or get down on herself. I have no prediction on the result, but I enjoy watching Jabeur play 100 times more than Rybakina.
I think it's on Rybakina's racket. She can be inconsistent, though. I expect her to win.
The way she is serving, I agree with you. But Jabeur absolutely has the shots to beat her if she does not get a high percentage of first serves in.

by Suliso
nelslus wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:31 pm
Suliso wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:06 pm I expected more from Kvitova.
.....Ya think?!?! :D

Not shocked that she lost- although, obviously, I was hoping she would win today, especially with their H2H record. But....that score? Really sad- could be her worst result ever. Uggggghhhhh. :cry:
Worst ever? In such a long career there have been plenty of dissappointing results. Everyone who has played 10+ years have.

by ponchi101 The people in ESPN down here were saying that it is indeed her worst match ever AT A SLAM.

by nelslus
jazzyg wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:32 pmKvitova simply is not good at Wimbledon anymore, failing to reach the quarterfinal since her last victory. People keep looking for something that is not there with her one-dimensional game and up-and-down ball-striking.
Overly-harsh! Petra's is not a one-dimensional game by any sense. She serves and volleys at times, comes to the net, slices, she can mix up her serves, etc., etc. This year, I think this has a lot more to do with her being 33- and the ongoing issue with not having feelings in a few of her fingers.

I also don't think that, other than us Petra-nerds, not all that many were looking for much of anything concerning Petra.

Nevertheless, clearly, I can't argue against your point about Petra no longer being good at Wimbledon. Miami was a great win for her. But, after looking at parts of her matches at this Wimbledon- even the Sasnovich win wasn't as impressive as I had hoped when I watched it. Sasnovich was pretty awful, and Petra's level was not all that impressive. And, obviously, her other wins weren't all that great. This almost definitely was her last gasp at Wimbledon/Slams relevance. Sad, sad.

by nelslus
Suliso wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:49 pm
nelslus wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:31 pm
Suliso wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:06 pm I expected more from Kvitova.
.....Ya think?!?! :D

Not shocked that she lost- although, obviously, I was hoping she would win today, especially with their H2H record. But....that score? Really sad- could be her worst result ever. Uggggghhhhh. :cry:
Worst ever? In such a long career there have been plenty of dissappointing results. Everyone who has played 10+ years have.
I actually meant to post that this could be her worst BIG/Slam match result ever. At least it's a candidate. But, sure, thanks for reminding me that, certainly, Petra's had plenty more horrible match results. :gorgeous: :oops:

by nelslus
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:59 pm The people in ESPN down here were saying that it is indeed her worst match ever AT A SLAM.
....So, THERE, Suliso!! :fuelfire:

by Suliso Still doubt it. In my book the worst results are then you're close to winning and still fall short. Like losing a break advantage in the third and maybe few match points squandered as well. This was not one of those matches.

by ponchi101 Well, I thought we were talking about NUMERICALLY.
Sure, Novotna's loss against Graf will always be one of the worst losses in history, but the score was close. This time, Petra simply was never able to even get into the match.

by nelslus
Suliso wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:06 pm Still doubt it. I my book the worst results are then you're close to winning and still fall short. Like losing a break advantage in the third and maybe few match points squandered as well. This was not one of those matches.
....Ponchi's ESPN sources back me up. I win, you lose. :gorgeous:

NOW, please gracefully allow me to wallow in this putrid Petra result already. :gorgeous: :gorgeous:

by nelslus
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:09 pm Well, I thought we were talking about NUMERICALLY.
Sure, Novotna's loss against Graf will always be one of the worst losses in history, but the score was close. This time, Petra simply was never able to even get into the match.
....JUST when I thought you were being helpful in my Suliso War. We're just talking about Petra's results at this time. Let's not EVER AGAIN encourage any mention of the dull, dull Steffi. And, please don't confuse Suliso and me during our cat-fight here. :gorgeous:

by Owendonovan Have Saint Holger and Andreeva met yet?

by meganfernandez Dimitrov double-faulted twice in a row to give Holger the break at 4-2 in the fourth. in the next game, he missed a wide-open shot when Holger slipped, got up, and ran to cover the backhand. It didn't have to be that good to win the point. Bad miss.

by Suliso Looks like 6 out of 8 QF spots will go to the top 8 seeds. Ruud and Tsitsipas failed to claim their place.

by Suliso For women it's 5 out of 8 with Gauff, Kvitova and Garcia missing. Rankings do mean something after all.

by ponchi101
nelslus wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:16 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:09 pm Well, I thought we were talking about NUMERICALLY.
Sure, Novotna's loss against Graf will always be one of the worst losses in history, but the score was close. This time, Petra simply was never able to even get into the match.
....JUST when I thought you were being helpful in my Suliso War. We're just talking about Petra's results at this time. Let's not EVER AGAIN encourage any mention of the dull, dull Steffi. And, please don't confuse Suliso and me during our cat-fight here. :gorgeous:
Potato-Potatoh.
Miss Graf is my favorite player of all time (women) ;)
Anyway, my $0.02 simply reminds that the SCORE was lousy; it says nothing about the quality (Ons did play a few truly highlights-reel shots).

by ti-amie Alcaraz 3-6, 6-3, 6-3, 6-3 over Berrettini.

by JTContinental Kind of shocked by the Kvitova/Jabeur result. I low key thought Kvitova was going to win the whole thing.

According to Pam Shriver, Andreeva's racquet throw could damage the grass court, which is why she got the code violation.

by ti-amie This video shows Haddad Maia retiring but there is another video floating around that I can't find that shows when she tweaked her back.



So someone made this a gif...

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by ponchi101
JTContinental wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 8:36 pm Kind of shocked by the Kvitova/Jabeur result. I low key thought Kvitova was going to win the whole thing.

According to Pam Shriver, Andreeva's racquet throw could damage the grass court, which is why she got the code violation.
But did she really throw it, on purpose. She did stumble.
Gray to me.

by ti-amie Wasn't that her second "toss" though?

by skatingfan I would be curious to see an angle of the whole thing where we can see where the chair umpire was looking, because my guess is that he didn't see the slip, and only saw Andreeva swing her racquet over her head, and into the court.

by ponchi101 Could very possibly be.
BTW. I know that there are some mentioning of Andreeva being a bit bratty. ESPN L.A. got an interview with her. She explained her situation, admitted that the NO HANDSHAKE was uncalled for, and said that she simply disagreed with the umpire. Very "straight and narrow".
So, at least after the event, she did not sound bratty.
(To me)

by ti-amie
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:44 am Could very possibly be.
BTW. I know that there are some mentioning of Andreeva being a bit bratty. ESPN L.A. got an interview with her. She explained her situation, admitted that the NO HANDSHAKE was uncalled for, and said that she simply disagreed with the umpire. Very "straight and narrow".
So, at least after the event, she did not sound bratty.
(To me)
Whoever is in charge of her PR gave her the script.

by ashkor87
Suliso wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:21 pm For women it's 5 out of 8 with Gauff, Kvitova and Garcia missing. Rankings do mean something after all.
This year we have seen very few real upsets...

by ashkor87 Vondrousova never ceases to amaze me..she has a great forehand..Pegula should stay away from it, Bouzkova could not. If she doesn't manage that, Vondrousova can beat her...50_50 match

by ashkor87
ashkor87 wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:40 am
Suliso wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:21 pm For women it's 5 out of 8 with Gauff, Kvitova and Garcia missing. Rankings do mean something after all.
This year we have seen very few real upsets...
Wonder if it is because there have been enough warmup events to let the players get used to grass..last year was anyway unusual...

by ashkor87 Eubanks was really impressive.. not just serve.. moves well, volleys well..could well beat Medvedev...

by jazzyg Eubanks has no shot to beat Medvedev. Not saying it will be a rout, but he will not win.

by ashkor87 I think Eubanks has at least a 50% chance...Medvedev is always vulnerable to a volleyer because of his court positioning and his passing shots, though very precise, lack power..

by ashkor87
Suliso wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:21 pm For women it's 5 out of 8 with Gauff, Kvitova and Garcia missing. Rankings do mean something after all.
There is a bit of self-fulfiling prophecy here though..if you are ranked high, you will be seeded high, so you are more likely to survive the early rounds..Pegula is a prime example...nobody but a good player can beat her, and her ranking/seeding protects her from them till the QFs at least...

by JTContinental
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:44 am Could very possibly be.
BTW. I know that there are some mentioning of Andreeva being a bit bratty. ESPN L.A. got an interview with her. She explained her situation, admitted that the NO HANDSHAKE was uncalled for, and said that she simply disagreed with the umpire. Very "straight and narrow".
So, at least after the event, she did not sound bratty.
(To me)
Honestly, her behavior on court was surprising to me yesterday. I've watched her a couple of times now and have seen nothing of the sort before, and she is very sweet and teenagey in interviews.

by Suliso You're ranked high because you regularly reach the latter rounds of important tournaments not the other way around. With some exceptions in case of a sudden loss of form.

by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:04 am
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:44 am Could very possibly be.
BTW. I know that there are some mentioning of Andreeva being a bit bratty. ESPN L.A. got an interview with her. She explained her situation, admitted that the NO HANDSHAKE was uncalled for, and said that she simply disagreed with the umpire. Very "straight and narrow".
So, at least after the event, she did not sound bratty.
(To me)
Whoever is in charge of her PR gave her the script.
Which I think is great. IF she was given a script AND she stuck to it, it means she is willing to listen to some people, and make corrections.
If somebody can pull her aside and tell her "that was not good from you" and she will at least evaluate it, she can become a much better player.
Just look at Rune. He is obviously surrounded by his family, who certainly loves him, but who will not tell him to tone down some aspects. And we already know the reputation he is acquiring (or already has).