WTA 500 ATP 250 Eastbourne 6/24 - 6/29 2024

[ashkor87]

Yes, but winning 2 matches out of 3 is not going to win you a major..re Raducanu, I believe she will win more...but yes, the definition of class is subjective...others may have other definitions

[ashkor87]

Sorry not to be able to copy and quote, I am in a train and my skills on mobile are not great...

[patrick]

Ponch, you make a good point, particularly about Ivanisevic, but what I meant to say was it was no fluke within that tournament for Raducano. She won 10 straight matches in straight sets and was never challenged in any of them, something none of the other one-slam wonders can say. That counts for something in my book.

As for Gaudio, you've touched a sore spot that only Patrick McEnroe and I seem to share. Gaudio was a terminally underrated talent who would have done a lot more in his career at Roland Garros if he were not such a headcase. His win against Coria was a fluke because Coria was on another level than anyone else at the time and simply choked, but Gaudio should have been a contender for several years with his game on clay and was a legitimate slam winner. The next year, though, he walked up to Ferrer during their very close fourth-round match and told Ferrer that Ferrer was going to win, which ultimately happened in five sets. Strange cat.

Majoli, Schiavone and Johansson's wins were one offs out of nowhere for me, but not Gaudio, who beat Nadal the first three times they played, never losing more than three games in the sets he won, and he even took him to three sets in their last two meetings after Nadal had truly become Nadal.

Pennetta I'd put in a different category, too, because she reached the U.S. Open semis three times, but definitely her career did not indicate a slam title was possible.

We've seen countless times how the "draw opens up". One player does the heavy lifting, eliminating favorites in hard-fought matches, while other rips the reward. Vinci beating Serena and then having nothing left for Pennetta. This list is long. In this particular case Leyla Fernandez eliminated more favorites, clearing the path for Raducanu.

Stosur for Schiavone at French Open
Lisicki for Bartoli at Wimbledon

[Fastbackss]

Yes, but winning 2 matches out of 3 is not going to win you a major..re Raducanu, I believe she will win more...but yes, the definition of class is subjective...others may have other definitions

How many slams/1000's (as of last year) did Pegula make the quarters or deeper in a row?

I think she also went the whole year without losing a match where she won the first set.

I can't agree with saying she's not as good as Emma because Emma put it together for a single week whilst not delivering elsewhere.

[mick1303]

It is hard to compare Goran with Ferrer, because Goran's resume is heavily tilted towards one surface. Also he was a bit earlier, when the difference between surfaces was much wider. But despite this their average numbers are very close. Ferrer is slightly higher, but not by much. But given that GS titles and runs to GS finals remain in memory of a general public while boring stats like percentages do not, Goran usually is considered more accomplished. In my weighted ranking for 1968-2023 Ferrer is at #29, while Goran is at #35.

[jazzyg]

We've seen countless times how the "draw opens up". One player does the heavy lifting, eliminating favorites in hard-fought matches, while other rips the reward. Vinci beating Serena and then having nothing left for Pennetta. This list is long. In this particular case Leyla Fernandez eliminated more favorites, clearing the path for Raducanu.

But Pennetta was a straight-up better player than Vinci. She would have beaten her whether she had anything left or not. I believe Raducanu is a better player than Fernandez, although that is still to be determined.

[Suliso]

But Pennetta was a straight-up better player than Vinci. She would have beaten her whether she had anything left or not. I believe Raducanu is a better player than Fernandez, although that is still to be determined.

Yes, but 99.9% of the time merely being better than Vinci doesn't win you any Slams.

[ti-amie]

Sat, 29 June, 2024 (Day 8)

Centre Court

Followed By
Wightman Cup Centenary Celebration

Not Before 12:30
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L. Fernandez Vs D. Kasatkina (6)
Not Before 14:30
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T. Fritz (1) Vs (Q) M. Purcell
Followed By
F
G. Dabrowski/E. Routliffe (1) Vs L. Kichenok/J. Ostapenko

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[mick1303]

We've seen countless times how the "draw opens up". One player does the heavy lifting, eliminating favorites in hard-fought matches, while other rips the reward. Vinci beating Serena and then having nothing left for Pennetta. This list is long. In this particular case Leyla Fernandez eliminated more favorites, clearing the path for Raducanu.

But Pennetta was a straight-up better player than Vinci. She would have beaten her whether she had anything left or not. I believe Raducanu is a better player than Fernandez, although that is still to be determined.

Raducanu: besides her US Open, never reached any finals, let alone won them.
Fernandez - has 3 WTA titles in singles (plus Fed Cup title, that I also count).
Raducanu win percentage - 53.09
Fernandez win percentage - 57.65

The 2nd best result in slams:
Raducanu - R16
Fernandez - QF

I see a clear separation here in favor of Fernandez.