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Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:32 pm
by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:28 pm Yes but why aren't the Saudi MEN lining up to watch the said 'scantily dressed women'?
Because men in the Arab states see women as inferior. And therefore, everything they do is also inferior.
It is not a government imposed, TOP DOWN policy. It is a BOTTOMS UP mentality.

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:52 pm
by Suliso
Besides there are plenty of other places one can see scantily dressed women if desired.

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:01 pm
by ashkor87
Frankly many of my friends here in India say the same thing ..I find it disgusting and tell them so ..

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:26 pm
by mmmm8
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:23 pm

Is Ben complaining about the YEC being held at MSG for 23 years, or applauding that?
I believe: BOTH tours screwed up by leaving MSG, and calling it anything other than THE MASTERS. It was so easy to promote:
THE MASTERS @ MSG.
Even good for the women.
He's pointing out how far the WTA has fallen.

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:57 pm
by ponchi101
Ok. I was not sure what his point was.

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:10 pm
by Fastbackss
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:57 pm Ok. I was not sure what his point was.
The MSG portion of his thread wasn't supposed to show; I meant only the Awe part - but couldn't get to display only that

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:30 pm
by ponchi101
Coco takes down Iga, and quite easily.
I guess this is a good reminder of how quickly this sport turns. Right after the USO, people were worried that her game was toast. The DF's were too much, she seemed lost.
She has to be a favorite to end the group stage first, avoiding Sabalenka in the SF's. So she may be doing really well right now.

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:16 pm
by mick1303
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:30 pm Coco takes down Iga, and quite easily.
I guess this is a good reminder of how quickly this sport turns. Right after the USO, people were worried that her game was toast. The DF's were too much, she seemed lost.
She has to be a favorite to end the group stage first, avoiding Sabalenka in the SF's. So she may be doing really well right now.
And this means that Sabalenka secured Year-End #1

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:35 pm
by Suliso
Iga hasn't played for a long time. There must be some internal issues we don't know about.

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:43 pm
by ponchi101
Has she lost some intensity? She needs that and today, at least in the highlights, she missed a few BH's that were routine. The MP against was a routine BH that she missed by a lot.
Then again. You know that I am firmly in the camp that staying away from the sport, for any length of extended time, is really bad. This sport is so demanding on its levels of precision that being just a bit off will mean defeat at this level. And, as you say, she has been away for a while.

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:01 pm
by ptmcmahon
I believe Gauff is through with her +4 sets now. Similarly Pegula is out at -4 sets.

If Switaek and Krejcikova win up tied (with one of the other two at 2-1 or 1-2) Krejcikova will get it since she is is +1, and Swiatek -1. In other words, Swiatek needs to win and need Krejcikova to lose as well.

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:23 pm
by JTContinental
Correct--Sabalenka and Gauff have already clinched the wins in their groups

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:05 pm
by ptmcmahon
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Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:06 pm
by ptmcmahon
JTContinental wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:23 pm Correct--Sabalenka and Gauff have already clinched the wins in their groups
Gauff hasn't clinched first yet, just a semifinal spot. If she loses to Krejicokva 2-0, or in 3 sets + Pegula wins other match, Krejcikova wins the group.

Re: WTA YEC Riyadh 11/2 - 11/9 2024

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:42 am
by JTContinental
Yes, I found out shortly after I posted that I misspoke, but was too lazy to correct it.

That scenario above seem extremely inplausible, but I'm a known Krejcikova skeptic