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Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:38 pm
by ponchi101
mick1303 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:34 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:06 pm
In a nod to Ashkor's argument, it does seem the Aussie is the place to three-peat, for the women.
That is if you count Martina's 6 years in a row for one case. But it hides 4 cases of "three-peat".
I basically discount everything Martina did as "one case", because she was so extraordinary.
She is my GOAT, so her numbers don't apply to "normal" players.
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:18 pm
by ti-amie
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:27 pm
by ti-amie
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:30 pm
by ti-amie
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:16 am
by meganfernandez
I like this so much better than the tight cropped shirt that looks shrunken on her.
ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:30 pm
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:46 am
by mick1303
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:38 pm
mick1303 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:34 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:06 pm
In a nod to Ashkor's argument, it does seem the Aussie is the place to three-peat, for the women.
That is if you count Martina's 6 years in a row for one case. But it hides 4 cases of "three-peat".
I basically discount everything Martina did as "one case", because she was so extraordinary.
She is my GOAT, so her numbers don't apply to "normal" players.
I agree with this. Yes, on the women's side, I also consider Martina the very best. But in this context we were comparing slams against each other, not players.
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:07 am
by ashkor87
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:37 am
by ashkor87
mick1303 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:21 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:45 pm
This is the list of players that have won the same slam 3 three years in a row.
Court - AO 69-71
Goolagong- AO 74-76
Graf - AO 88-90. W 91-93,
Seles - AO 91-93, RG 90-92
Henin - RG 05-07
Swiatek - RG 22-24
Martina - W - 82-87
Evert - USO - 75 - 78
Serena - USO - 12-14
It is more than I expected, but it is not an easy thing to do.
Additionally:
Hingis won AO in 97-99
Ignore everything before 87..it was the last major and many players did not go... Goolagong and Court did not have many non-Australians challenging them.
Evert at the FO, Nadal at the FO, Sampras at W, Djokovic at the AO, these are not normal human performances, rules dont apply to these folk.
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:14 pm
by mick1303
It was the last major from 1978 to 1987. Not the whole time since 1968. In 1977 there were 2 AOs. For uniformity between years in my yearly calculations I consider December Australian Opens as part of next year calendar.
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:22 pm
by mick1303
ChatGPT is just parroting the analysts. But the majority of them rely on past matches, undervaluing the actual analyses of the players development. AI is not yet capable of such analyses. Medvedev will be extremely lucky if he'll reach the quarterfinal to play Sinner. Chances that he wins against Sinner are very slim. The same with Djokovic. It will be quite a success if he'll reach quarters to meet Alcaraz. If he'll be there, his chances against Alcaraz are better than Medvedev's against Sinner. But they are still not good.
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:39 pm
by Owendonovan
I hate the idea of giving weight to a ChatGP prediction, but here we are.
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:44 pm
by ashkor87
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:39 pm
I hate the idea of giving weight to a ChatGP prediction, but here we are.
oh I am not taking it seriously either, just thought it was cute... the day Chat Gpt does better than me, I will quit playing SP and whatnot!
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:35 pm
by ponchi101
I have no idea of how to use ChatGPT. But, is there a way that we can have it play the SP? See how it does?
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:38 pm
by ponchi101
MS Copilot cannot play. Just checked.
Re: ATP WTA GS Aus Open 1/6 - 1/26 2025
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:58 pm
by Owendonovan
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:35 pm
I have no idea of how to use ChatGPT. But, is there a way that we can have it play the SP? See how it does?
If at some point AI can beat the house, where does gambling end up? More corrupted?