Talk About Tennis 2.0

Impressive win by Kenin, one time runner up at RG, over another RU, Paylyuchenkova..she is so much more light and agile, finds angles so well..Pavs could have done better but didn't seem to have ideas

mick1303 wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 10:32 am I can't quite put a finger on what is different about Griekspoor's technique. Something definitely separates him from the average stroke production as my eyes tell me. But what exactly?

Seems to slap it a bit abruptly on the forehand, more action after and during contact than before..but many folks do that..his backhand seems quite normal...

Will Kostyuk shake Kasatkina's hand now? Waiting to see!

Muchova will go down as one of those "Richard Krajicek" players, sans the slam. Amazing strokes, great athletics, the endurance of an Italian sports car.
Too bad. She is such a beauty to watch play.

ORDER OF PLAY - SATURDAY, 10 MAY 2025

Campo Centrale - start 11 a.m.

ATP - [29] Matteo Berrettini (ITA) vs Jacob Fearnley (GBR)

Not Before 1 p.m.
WTA - [29] Danielle Collins (USA) vs [2] Iga Swiatek (POL)
WTA - [6] Jasmine Paolini (ITA) vs [27] Ons Jabeur (TUN)

Not Before 7 p.m.
ATP - [1] Jannik Sinner (ITA) vs Mariano Navone (ARG)

Not Before 8:30 p.m.
WTA - [25] Elise Mertens (BEL) vs [3] Jessica Pegula (USA)

Grand Stand Arena - start 11 a.m.

WTA - [5] Madison Keys (USA) vs Peyton Stearns (USA)
ATP - [4] Taylor Fritz (USA) vs Marcos Giron (USA)
ATP - [20] Jakub Mensik (CZE) vs [WC] Matteo Gigante (ITA)

Not Before 5 p.m.
WTA - Marie Bouzkova (CZE) vs Naomi Osaka (JPN)
ATP - [WC] Luca Nardi (ITA) vs [7] Alex de Minaur (AUS)

SuperTennis Arena - start 11 a.m.

ATP - Fabian Marozsan (HUN) vs [16] Andrey Rublev
ATP - Alexander Bublik (KAZ) vs [6] Casper Ruud (NOR)
ATP - [17] Francisco Cerundolo (ARG) vs Nicolas Jarry (CHI)
ATP - [12] Ben Shelton (USA) vs Jaume Munar (ESP)

Pietrangeli - start 11 a.m.

ATP - [Q] Sebastian Ofner (AUT) vs [15] Frances Tiafoe (USA)
WTA - [13] Diana Shnaider vs Jaqueline Cristian (ROU)
WTA - [16] Elina Svitolina (UKR) vs Hailey Baptiste (USA)
ATP - [26] Felix Auger-Aliassime (CAN) vs [Q] Thiago Seyboth Wild (BRA)
WTA - [17] Jelena Ostapenko (LAT) vs Laura Siegemund (GER)

Court 14 - start 11 a.m.

ATP - Learner Tien (USA) vs [19] Tomas Machac (CZE)
ATP - Pedro Martinez (ESP) vs [30] Hubert Hurkacz (POL)
ATP - [LL] Jesper de Jong (NED) vs [25] Alejandro Davidovich Fokina (ESP)
WTA - [8] Asia Muhammad (USA) / Demi Schuurs (NED) vs Cristina Bucsa (ESP) / Angelica Moratelli (ITA)

Court 1 - start 11 a.m.

ATP - [11] Tommy Paul (USA) vs Roberto Bautista Agut (ESP)
ATP - Aleksandar Vukic (AUS) vs [22] Sebastian Korda (USA)

Not Before 2 p.m.
WTA - Alexandra Panova / Fanny Stollar (HUN) vs Alexandra Eala (PHI) / Coco Gauff (USA)
WTA - Tyra Caterina Grant (ITA) / Lisa Pigato (ITA) vs [7] Anna Danilina (KAZ) / Irina Khromacheva

Followed By

WTA - After suitable rest - Linda Noskova (CZE) / Clara Tauson (DEN) vs [6] Mirra Andreeva / Diana Shnaider

Court 2 - start 11 a.m.

WTA - Hao-Ching Chan (TPE) / Giuliana Olmos (MEX) vs Xinyu Wang (CHN) / Saisai Zheng (CHN)
WTA - [1] Gabriela Dabrowski (CAN) / Erin Routliffe (NZL) vs Monica Niculescu (ROU) / Katarzyna Piter (POL)

Not Before 1 p.m.
WTA - Leylah Fernandez (CAN) / Yulia Putintseva (KAZ) vs Makoto Ninomiya (JPN) / Yifan Xu (CHN)

Followed By
WTA - After suitable rest - Daria Kasatkina (AUS) / Peyton Stearns (USA) vs Shuko Aoyama (JPN) / Nadiia Kichenok (UKR)

Court 4 - start 12 p.m.

WTA - Storm Hunter (AUS) / Ellen Perez (AUS) vs Magda Linette (POL) / Rebecca Sramkova (SVK)

Not Before 1 p.m.
WTA - Miyu Kato (JPN) / Aldila Sutjiadi (INA) vs Marta Kostyuk (UKR) / Elena-Gabriela Ruse (ROU)

Doubles Draw - ATP

M. Arevalo (1)/M. Pavic (1) vs J. Cash/L. Miedler
R. Opelka (PR)/T. Paul (PR) vs S. Gille/J. Zielinski
A. Goransson/S. Verbeek vs J. Smith/J. Thompson
M. Bellucci (WC)/F. Romano (WC) vs C. Harrison (7)/E. King (7)

M. Granollers (4)/H. Zeballos (4) vs Y. Bhambri/R. Galloway
R. Matos/M. Melo vs S. Arends (Alt)/L. Johnson (Alt)
J. Salisbury/N. Skupski vs N. Lammons/J. Withrow
R. Bopanna/A. Pavlasek vs N. Mektic (6)/M. Venus (6)

S. Bolelli (5)/A. Vavassori (5) vs F. Bondioli (WC)/C. Caniato (WC)
S. Doumbia/F. Reboul vs F. Cerundolo/C. Ugo Carabelli
M. Ebden/J. Peers vs A. Behar/H. Nys
S. Baez/A. Muller vs K. Krawietz (3)/T. Puetz (3)

M. Gonzalez (8)/A. Molteni (8) vs M. Arnaldi/A. Popyrin
J. Murray/R. Ram vs A. Davidovich Fokina/A. Fils
L. Musetti/L. Sonego vs J. Berrettini (WC)/M. Berrettini (WC)
F. Cobolli/S. Korda vs H. Heliovaara (2)/H. Patten (2)

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 12:09 pm Will Kostyuk shake Kasatkina's hand now? Waiting to see!

She did

Wonder why the bad blood between Collins and Swiatek..anyone know?

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat May 10, 2025 1:40 am Wonder why the bad blood between Collins and Swiatek..anyone know?

It's from the Olympics last year - Collins called out Swiatek's game playing.

I'm thinking the bad blood only gets worse now that Collins ousted Swiatek from Rome.

Swiatek has declined significantly since last year. Why I don't know...

Suliso wrote: ↑Sat May 10, 2025 1:36 pm Swiatek has declined significantly since last year. Why I don't know...

At Madrid she seemed not to be balanced on her feet.. wonder if her body has changed somehow ..

My wife, who is a good player but doesn't watch much, says Swiatek looks to have become very muscular..like Sakkari perhaps, or Chang..I wonder. What do people here think?
Her serve has certainly become too attackable, she should flatten it a bit, add pace..it is too spinny right now ..

Of course, Collins always had the pace and depth to push Swiatek back, not let get on the front foot..just as Rybakina has..but that 1 and 1 defeat at Coco's hands was even more concerning..

Suliso wrote: ↑Sat May 10, 2025 1:36 pm Swiatek has declined significantly since last year. Why I don't know...

I can't say either, but some things may be out of her control. The fear factor is gone. She no longer goes out (on clay) with one break in her pocket before the match starts.
The players that are beating her are hard hitters. I think it is JT here that says it best: she is a bully, and bullies do not like to be bullied. When she gets into two or three games that are even and she cannot impose her pace, she is the one shrinking.
Ashkor's assessment that her serve is not working seems to be on-the-money. The bunch of service return winners from Collins was high.
And, just maybe. As opposed to Rafa, Iga has too many players that do not like her. And that fuels the other player. Rafa went out there being respected; Iga goes out there being unliked. Maybe some of these players simply go out there and are able to focus better because they don't like her.
Anyway. It is not as if I am going to cry over her recent drop. And my assessment that she was good for 10 slams may have to be revisited. Too early for that, though.