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Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:18 am
by ponchi101
Thank you, Maddie.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:16 pm
by mmmm8
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:42 pm
But do all same tier tournaments have the same purse? I know there are variations for the MS1000's in the men's, and some pay more than others. For example, what should a WTA 250 pay if there is no participation of the ATP in the same draw? It is easy for the shared events, but I thought that what was being talked about was that, on average, WTA tournaments that are not shared pay less than ATP tournaments.
They don't. I'm saying they should. You want to run a 500? Here's the prize money that the WTA has set at that level? Aren't ready to pay it? You can have a 250.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:48 pm
by ponchi101
I went looking at several WTA 250's, starting with Copa Colsanitas here in Bogota, and it seems they all are around the $250K total commitment mark. Looking at the 500's, they all are around $750K (Charleston offers $900k).
So there seems to be certain homogenous purses depending on the levels.
And, again, they are not similar in prize money compared to their ATP counterparts.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:01 pm
by Suliso
They could raise the requirement, but the risk is that it will result in no tournaments at all.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:55 pm
by ti-amie
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:02 am
by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:55 pm
^ Am I missing something?
That just looks truly bizarre.
I see the D and M... a person's head and legs (or 'record' and 'pause'?).
Medvedev is basically an intellectual genius (and can also be a complete asshole), and so there may well be some hidden, coded, obscure message here that is far less than apparent.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:33 am
by ti-amie
Most people thought it was a new Dominic Thiem logo...
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:06 am
by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:33 am
Most people thought it was a new Dominic Thiem logo...
Or Dominika Cibulkova...
Or Max Domi from the NHL...

Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:58 pm
by Cuckoo4Coco
Regardless if the logo is a bit bizarre in the end the brand will be lining his pockets with more cash.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:51 pm
by meganfernandez
ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:55 pm
I read the symbols on top and bottom as a video-game reference while also looking like a person. It's playful and clean. I like it.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:30 am
by Deuce
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:51 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:55 pm
I read the symbols on top and bottom as a video-game reference while also looking like a person. It's playful and clean. I like it.
But no-one will know who it represents unless they are told!
That rather defeats the purpose of individual 'branding', doesn't it?
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:58 pm
by meganfernandez
Deuce wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:30 am
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:51 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:55 pm
I read the symbols on top and bottom as a video-game reference while also looking like a person. It's playful and clean. I like it.
But no-one will know who it represents unless they are told!
That rather defeats the purpose of individual 'branding', doesn't it?
I work for a branding agency now, and it's fine if some aspects of meaning aren't apparent to everyone. There are lots of design elements in our branding that aren't on-the-nose apparent, but add up to an overall impression. It's all about target demo, too. I'm sure plenty of his fans know he's a gamer, and the target demo is much more likely to associate those symbols with gaming. Heck, if I got it, 25-year-olds are going to get it. I'm also just assuming those are gaming symbols - maybe they aren't. For the people that don't get the literal reference, the goal for the brand is just to look cool, modern and playful. I bet there's a lot more to it. I'd love to read about the design intent.
I'm not sure if it's a fantastic logo, all I know is I like it.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:06 pm
by JazzNU
The trademark filing part might be a newish thing, but other players have logos who aren't necessarily marketing powerhouses. Sinner and Barty come to mind as players who unveiled logos. I don't particularly understand Daniil's logo, looks like it would be better suited for Cibulkova than him or Dominic Thiem honestly, but it's fine. I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't take off the way he's hoping it does.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:06 pm
by ti-amie
Interesting that it may have a gaming reference with regard to the top and bottom symbols. The only reason I know how big gaming is is because of my son-in-law.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:08 pm
by meganfernandez
ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:06 pm
Interesting that it may have a gaming reference with regard to the top and bottom symbols. The only reason I know how big gaming is is because of my son-in-law.
The circular arrangement of the four icons is also reminiscent of a gaming controller.