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Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:34 am
by Deuce
While David Crosby was an integral part of some influential musical groups who created great music, he was also a complicated and troubled man who alienated many friends due to his personality.

Very detailed article about his life here:
David Crosby Dead at 81...

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Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:18 am
by JazzNU
So sad. Quite shocking. She was great in everything I saw her in.



Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:25 pm
by Owendonovan
^What is the deal with gofundme's for any death not occurring at the prescribed time society demands? $250k for a family who likely is doing ok financially? Gofundme's too often rub the wrong the way for me.

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:22 pm
by skatingfan
Owendonovan wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:25 pm ^What is the deal with gofundme's for any death not occurring at the prescribed time society demands? $250k for a family who likely is doing ok financially? Gofundme's too often rub the wrong the way for me.
Funerals are expensive, and then add in the costs of lawyers, and other representatives, it can get pretty costly.

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:00 pm
by ptmcmahon
Which is the same issues non Hollywood people have too :) They just haven't potentially made millions on TV/in movies.

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:03 pm
by Fastbackss
Motown song writer Barrett Strong has passed
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 147421002/

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:30 pm
by JazzNU
Owendonovan wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:25 pm ^What is the deal with gofundme's for any death not occurring at the prescribed time society demands? $250k for a family who likely is doing ok financially? Gofundme's too often rub the wrong the way for me.
Not everyone is prepared for the financial burden that comes with a lengthy illness or untimely death. Gofundme wasn't a thing before, but people used to set up funds, informally or formally, for families and friends to donate to long ago, especially when, like this, there were young children left behind. She had 3 sons.

I just took a look at Annie's GoFund Me. If you're familiar with her work and look at the donation page, you'll find most of the top donations are from her co-workers and friends and it was setup by an actress that was a co-worker and friend. It's just a modern way to go about an older practice to me. The sharing of it publicly is different, but not much else.

I wouldn't assume that Annie's family was financially well off. I'd have to assume she was the breadwinner by a hefty margin in her family, and she's well known, but far from a household name. More often a recurring character than a leading one. I'd think she'd have to keep working to maintain whatever their current comfortable livelihood is.

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:53 pm
by Deuce
The HUGE difference, of course, between then and now in terms of 'setting up funds' after someone dies is that 'GoFundMe' and similar services reach FAR MORE people than the old methods ever did.
Because the internet is... uhh... much further reaching - worldwide, in fact...

More people reached equals more money received, obviously.
Therefore, any comparisons between 'setting up funds' pre-internet and 'setting up funds' since the internet is beyond apples and oranges.

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:57 pm
by ptmcmahon
True we can't assume. But still seems a little off to me - like you said they probably had a comfortable livelihood. So asking for money to maintain then when there are plenty of others who wouldn't have had that lifestyle...but like you said it was setup for by a friend, so it's probably just weirder to see it so publicly I guess.

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:06 pm
by Suliso
skatingfan wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:22 pm
Owendonovan wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:25 pm ^What is the deal with gofundme's for any death not occurring at the prescribed time society demands? $250k for a family who likely is doing ok financially? Gofundme's too often rub the wrong the way for me.
Funerals are expensive, and then add in the costs of lawyers, and other representatives, it can get pretty costly.
What are the lawyers for in such a case?

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:10 pm
by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:06 pm
skatingfan wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:22 pm
Owendonovan wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:25 pm ^What is the deal with gofundme's for any death not occurring at the prescribed time society demands? $250k for a family who likely is doing ok financially? Gofundme's too often rub the wrong the way for me.
Funerals are expensive, and then add in the costs of lawyers, and other representatives, it can get pretty costly.
What are the lawyers for in such a case?
Splitting the inheritance, especially if she left no written will. Paying off any debts, settling estate taxes. Mortgages, loans, etc.
If you are rich, better have a will at any time of your life. Otherwise, it can get messy. And, if your family is not harmonious, it can get very messy.

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:17 pm
by Suliso
I haven't got a will... Have you?

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:22 pm
by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:17 pm I haven't got a will... Have you?
Yes. I have to update it because there are some things that have changed, but basically, all the info on where my money is and what I own is there.
A will down to who gets my watches (I have a small collection).
My racquets are to be buried with me. Or cremated with me.

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:24 pm
by Suliso
Wow, that's impressive!

Re: In Memoriam

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:51 pm
by ptmcmahon
Even in simple cases you need lawyers. When my dad died he left house to my mom and then split his investments four ways between me and siblings. We were all 100% harmonious but still needed lawyer to open probate, etc etc.