Talk About Tennis 2.0

Rege-Jean Page center right. He played the "sexy duke" in S1 Bridgerton


Wayne Rooney (Center)






A brown suit though David?

Simone Ashley, this years Bridgerton leading lady, is on the left. Michelle Dockery, Lady Mary of Downton Abbey is on the right.

The way Kyrgios has been playing, and Djokovic',s shaky starts, I would expect Kyrgios to win this..he would be a worthy champion..great serve, good movement, good volleys, good forehand, self-belief..he has what a Wimbledon champion should have

He does not have a good FH, he has a great one. In the last match, he smacked one at 110MPH. That is not just "good".
I don't think anybody has ever complained about his game; many people, many here, have said how great his strokes are.
It is just the other aspects that at times cause some problems. Otherwise, his fans would be legions (more than already).

Apropos both finals I often feel the best response to a big serve is not a great return, it is a bigger serve...nobody can serve 'bigger' than Kyrgios and Rybakina...the serve is much under-rated , especially on grass..I remember the great 'near-upset' when Ashe nearly beat Laver..I think it was '68..everyone, especially the media, who only looks at drama, credited Ashe's aggression and fire- when I saw the YouTube video, it seemed clear the difference was Laver wasn't getting his first serve in, the first 2 sets- when he did, it was soon over..even for someone as great as Laver, first serve is critical.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:16 am The way Kyrgios has been playing, and Djokovic',s shaky starts, I would expect Kyrgios to win this..he would be a worthy champion..great serve, good movement, good volleys, good forehand, self-belief..he has what a Wimbledon champion should have

^ Except the most important thing - class.

He has class, just not the way most people define it. Class, in my usage, is not about behavior..it is purely about your inherent tennis ability

Class, the way that the great majority of people define it, is certainly about one's behaviour and character.
And by that definition, Kyrgios has no class.

He has no class, and he has no respect for tennis fans (unless they are Kyrgios fans, of course), he has no respect for tennis officials, he has no respect for tennis tournaments, and he has no respect for professional tennis.
He loves the game of tennis in the same genuine and passionate manner that a child would... but he hates everything about pro tennis, and shows it no respect.
But he somehow expects people - and pro tennis - to respect him.

Just not the way I use the word..we use it a lot in cricket- not so much in the US or Europe .eg what a classy batsman! It has to do with the the ease, the timing, the feeling that he/she seems to be able to do whatever he/she wants to, with the ball. It is about inherent talent - hence the phrase, again, not much used in countries who (sadly) do not play cricket 'form is temporary, class is permanent' - Virat Kohli is struggling these days but everyone knows he will strike form one day - because he has class.

Would you agree with: he is NOT a gentleman on court? I mean, I see you cricket-lingo explanation, but this man has done things on court that are far from the spirit of the game.
Or, admittedly, the spirit I would like to see in the game. Again, my calendar keeps getting more gray.

Seeing as this is officially referred to as the 'Gentleman's Singles Final' at Wimbledon, perhaps Kyrgios could/should be disqualified simply because he obviously does not qualify as a 'gentleman'.

I think I'd be in favour of that...

Tennis - and indeed, life - is about more than the talent or ability one possesses for a certain task. Comportment matters.
I don't understand how anyone can completely disregard one's behaviour/comportment/character, and look only at one's ability to perform a particular task. An ability to perform a task is a very, very small portion of the person.
A person's comportment/character is a far more significant and important element of the person than the mere ability to perform a certain task. And so I feel that people should be assessed more on their comportment/character than on their ability to perform a specific task.