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Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 2:51 pm
by ponchi101
Where she will have a better chance than here (Kontaveit at WImbledon. You posted while I wrote).
It is still insane, though. A player that lost in 1R at RG, climbs to #2 in the rankings. Now the thing will how large will the gap be between #1 and #2. Could be almost 4,000 points, right?
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 2:58 pm
by Suliso
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:51 pm
Could be almost 4,000 points, right?
4306 points gap if Swiatek wins the title. In fact it would probably secure year end #1 title for her. Her advantage in the race (to Jabeur) would be ca 4700 points.
Of course she might lose to Zheng in few days and then it's a different story.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 5:02 pm
by patrick
Suliso wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:47 pm
So the race to #2 is over. Anett Kontaveit has won and most likely will be #2 seed at Wimbledon.
If I read correctly, Pegula can be number 2 if she wins next Saturday.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 6:01 pm
by Suliso
Yes, but I was disregarding such small probabilities.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 6:33 pm
by JTContinental
A lot larger probability now that she's the #2 ranked player in the draw
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 12:30 pm
by Suliso
Trevisan up to #26 in the live rankings. Could be overtaken by Stephens but no one else.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:34 am
by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:51 pm
Where she will have a better chance than here (Kontaveit at WImbledon. You posted while I wrote).
It is still insane, though. A player that lost in 1R at RG, climbs to #2 in the rankings. Now the thing will how large will the gap be between #1 and #2. Could be almost 4,000 points, right?
I am glad..really highlights how useless rankings are,! Which I have always believed..
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:40 am
by ashkor87
On the same note I imagine RG lost a lot of money from the Djokovic-Nadal match happening too soon..will anyone come to see a Nadal-Ruud final? They could have used their discretion in seeding- my understanding is, they can (not sure, though, does anyone know?)
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:30 am
by 3mlm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:40 am
On the same note I imagine RG lost a lot of money from the Djokovic-Nadal match happening too soon..will anyone come to see a Nadal-Ruud final? They could have used their discretion in seeding- my understanding is, they can (not sure, though, does anyone know?)
The 2022 Grand Slam Rule Book (Section 2.f.) has this to say:
f. Seeds
Players who are given preferential positions in the draw.
I. Seeds Required.
ii. All Grand Slam Tournaments will have a seeded draw. There shall be only one seeding list.
iii. Selection of Seeds
The ranking list dated approximately seven (7) days prior to the tournament shall be the basis for such selection.
The Grand Slam Tournaments used to have discretion in seeding but, at least in recent times, usually only Wimbledon used discretion and only for the men's draw. Now the slams all use the ATP/WTA rankings for seeding.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:01 am
by ashkor87
thanks! so not much discretion then.. well, let them lose money then..
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:08 am
by Suliso
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:40 am
On the same note I imagine RG lost a lot of money from the Djokovic-Nadal match happening too soon..will anyone come to see a Nadal-Ruud final? They could have used their discretion in seeding- my understanding is, they can (not sure, though, does anyone know?)
They can't do that. Anyway I don't get this whining whenever the commercially most desired final doesn't happen. Nadal-Ruud will be just fine and stands will be full as usual.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:37 am
by ashkor87
Suliso wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:08 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:40 am
On the same note I imagine RG lost a lot of money from the Djokovic-Nadal match happening too soon..will anyone come to see a Nadal-Ruud final? They could have used their discretion in seeding- my understanding is, they can (not sure, though, does anyone know?)
They can't do that. Anyway I don't get this whining whenever the commercially most desired final doesn't happen. Nadal-Ruud will be just fine and stands will be full as usual.
We all know that is not where the money is- what TV and streaming audience do you suppose the Tuesday match got? What will the finals get?
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:53 am
by Suliso
So what? You don't always get what you want. Nadal could have lost to FAA and then we'd not be talking about this at all.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:29 am
by ashkor87
Funny that tournaments think they cannot reshuffle the seedings but think they can ban players outright!
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:07 am
by Suliso
Reshuffling would be very unfair to lower ranked players.