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Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:04 pm
by JTContinental
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:19 pm
I understand the marketing.
But Roddick and Blake are not legends. Very good players, but we are stretching the adjectives.
Roddick is a legend—he was #1, won a slam and a Davis Cup. Plus he possessed a memorable personality.
Blake is only a legend in his mind…
Incidentally, Wimbledon had Karolina Sprem competing in their legends doubles tournament.
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:14 pm
by meganfernandez
JTContinental wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:04 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:19 pm
I understand the marketing.
But Roddick and Blake are not legends. Very good players, but we are stretching the adjectives.
Roddick is a legend—he was #1, won a slam and a Davis Cup. Plus he possessed a memorable personality.
Blake is only a legend in his mind…
Incidentally, Wimbledon had Karolina Sprem competing in their legends doubles tournament.
"Legend" is a loose term for marketing campaigns. Blake might be a legend in the context of the US Open. He had that great match with Agassi in 2005, is from there, well-liked there. He won 10 titles and got to No. 4. Not bad.
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:16 pm
by meganfernandez
jazzyg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:33 pm
A reminder: Nadal had won the U.S. Open more times than Djokovic.
4 to 3, right? One of the more surprising statistics in the Big 3 catalog.
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:58 pm
by ponchi101
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:14 pm
JTContinental wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:04 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:19 pm
I understand the marketing.
But Roddick and Blake are not legends. Very good players, but we are stretching the adjectives.
Roddick is a legend—he was #1, won a slam and a Davis Cup. Plus he possessed a memorable personality.
Blake is only a legend in his mind…
Incidentally, Wimbledon had Karolina Sprem competing in their legends doubles tournament.
"Legend" is a loose term for marketing campaigns. Blake might be a legend in the context of the US Open. He had that great match with Agassi in 2005, is from there, well-liked there. He won 10 titles and got to No. 4. Not bad.
I understand the marketing, but it is this morphing of the language that I find so weird. If Blake is a legend, so is Nalbandian. Delpo is then what? If you use legend for Blake, and Roddick, what do you use for Roger, Rafa, Novak or Serena? Super-legend? Über-Legend? Super-duper-über legendary legend?
Don't bother, I just have to go out and find a cloud to yell at. You know me
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:06 pm
by ti-amie
I think the term Legend is misused as well (Karolina Sprem?) but what other word would they use to describe former players? I get your point but I don't think they can market this any other way.
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:40 pm
by jazzyg
JTContinental wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:04 pm
Blake is only a legend in his mind…
Blake is a very humble guy who always doubted he belonged at the top of the game even when he was ranked in the top five briefly. That's a strange take.
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:41 pm
by JTContinental
jazzyg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:40 pm
JTContinental wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:04 pm
Blake is only a legend in his mind…
Blake is a very humble guy who always doubted he belonged at the top of the game even when he was ranked in the top five briefly. That's a strange take.
Of course. This was very obviously a joke and not a "take"
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:08 pm
by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:06 pm
I think the term Legend is misused as well (Karolina Sprem?) but what other word would they use to describe former players? I get your point but I don't think they can market this any other way.
Blake reached #1 in the USA. "Former US #1" sounds totally true, it is a very, very high achievement, and keeps the perspective. Roddick can completely say "Slam Champion, World #1" with a straight face. Both can claim DC CUP Winners (go for the jugular and say "Real DC Cup Winners").
Heck, Blake can be marketed as "Really, really great guy James Blake" and we will all agree.
"Tennis Legend James Blake" has us talking about it. At least, has me talking about it, because I am me (Whiny LB HOF Inductee Ponchi101...)
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:27 pm
by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:06 pm
I think the term Legend is misused as well (Karolina Sprem?) but what other word would they use to describe former players?
How about 'former players'...
Or 'Seniors'...
Or 'former top 10 players'...
Or 'former top 20 players'...
Or...
The fact is that only people who've followed tennis for a number of years - in other words, real tennis fans - will be drawn to watch these old players play in an exhibition. And those tennis fans won't be fooled by the term 'legend' - they already know who are the 'legends', and who are not the 'legends'.
Therefore, I don't really understand the marketing using the term 'legends' for all former players.
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:51 pm
by atlpam
I don’t think this has any impact on the vaccination requirement for non citizens entering the USA.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-n ... ation.html
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:10 pm
by JTContinental
Monfils is out with a foot injury
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:12 pm
by JTContinental
Partial list of wildcards announced
Venus Williams
Sofia Kenin
Harmony Tan
Dominic Thiem
Sam Querrey
Ben Shelton
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:02 pm
by ti-amie
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:02 pm
by ti-amie
Re: '22 WTA ATP GS USOpen 8/29 - 9/11
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:32 pm
by ti-amie
MAIN DRAW Schedule
SESSION DAY DATE SESSION TIME (ET) MATCH SCHEDULE (Singles)
1 M 8/29 11:00 AM Men's & Women's 1st Round
2 M 8/29 7:00 PM Men's & Women's 1st Round
3 TU 8/30 11:00 AM Men's & Women's 1st Round
4 TU 8/30 7:00 PM Men's & Women's 1st Round
5 W 8/31 11:00 AM Men's & Women's 2nd Round
6 W 8/31 7:00 PM Men's & Women's 2nd Round
7 TH 9/1 11:00 AM Men's & Women's 2nd Round
8 TH 9/1 7:00 PM Men's & Women's 2nd Round
9 FR 9/2 11:00 AM Men's & Women's 3rd Round
10 FR 9/2 7:00 PM Men's & Women's 3rd Round
11 SA 9/3 11:00 AM Men's & Women's 3rd Round
12 SA 9/3 7:00 PM Men's & Women's 3rd Round
13 SU 9/4 11:00 AM Men's & Women's Round of 16
14 SU 9/4 7:00 PM Men's & Women's Round of 16
15 M 9/5 11:00 AM Men's & Women's Round of 16
16 M 9/5 7:00 PM Men's & Women's Round of 16
17 TU 9/6 12:00 PM Men's & Women's Quarterfinals
18 TU 9/6 7:00 PM Men's & Women's Quarterfinals
19 W 9/7 12:00 PM Men's & Women's Quarterfinals
20 W 9/7 7:00 PM Men's & Women's Quarterfinals
21 TH 9/8 7:00 PM Women's Semifinals
22 FR 9/9 3:00 PM Men's Semifinals
23 FR 9/9 7:00 PM Men's Semifinals
24 SA 9/10 4:00 PM Women's Final
25 SU 9/11 4:00 PM Men's Final
Full schedule still to be released and subject to change. All matches in Arthur Ashe Stadium begin at 12:00 PM.