1 Alexander Bublik / Luke Saville 346 140
2 Jeremy Chardy / Ugo Humbert - 142
3 Tallon Griekspoor / Bart Stevens 290 142
4 Gregoire Barrere / Quentin Halys 636 143
5 Constant Lestienne / Corentin Moutet - 150
6 Borna Gojo / Miomir Kecmanovic - 151
7 Yuki Bhambri / Saketh Myneni 151 153
8 David Pel / Reese Stalder 164 163
9 Marco Cecchinato / Thiago Monteiro - 182
10 N.Sriram Balaji / Jeevan Nedunchezhiyan 186 185
11 Luis David Martinez / John-Patrick Smith 180 185
12 Matteo Arnaldi / Marco Bortolotti 941 189
13 Julian Cash / Luke Johnson 198 192
14 Andrew Harris / Dominik Koepfer - 196
15 Roman Jebavy / Jiri Vesely - 197
16 Sander Arends / Constantin Frantzen 199 199
17 Federico Coria / Diego Hidalgo - 199
18 Hugo Dellien / Juan Pablo Varillas - 231
19 Hans Hach Verdugo / Evan King 231 235
20 Ivan Sabanov / Matej Sabanov 238 236
Withdrawals
Names Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
Hendrik Jebens / Jan-Lennard Struff 240 109
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by ti-amieGENTLEMEN'S SINGLES - Seeding
1 ALCARAZ, Carlos (ESP)
2 DJOKOVIC, Novak (SRB)
3 MEDVEDEV, Daniil
4 RUUD, Casper (NOR)
5 TSITSIPAS, Stefanos (GRE)
6 RUNE, Holger (DEN)
7 RUBLEV, Andrey
8 SINNER, Jannik (ITA)
9 FRITZ, Taylor (USA)
10 TIAFOE, Frances (USA)
11 AUGER-ALIASSIME, Felix (CAN)
12 NORRIE, Cameron (GBR)
13 CORIC, Borna (CRO)
14 MUSETTI, Lorenzo (ITA)
15 DE MINAUR, Alex (AUS)
16 PAUL, Tommy (USA)
17 HURKACZ, Hubert (POL)
18 CERUNDOLO, Francisco (ARG)
19 ZVEREV, Alexander (GER)
20 BAUTISTA AGUT, Roberto (ESP)
21 DIMITROV, Grigor (BUL)
22 KORDA, Sebastian (USA)
23 BUBLIK, Alexander (KAZ)
24 NISHIOKA, Yoshihito (JPN)
25 JARRY, Nicolas (CHI)
26 SHAPOVALOV, Denis (CAN)
27 EVANS, Daniel (GBR)
28 GRIEKSPOOR, Tallon (NED)
29 ETCHEVERRY, Tomas Martin (ARG)
30 KYRGIOS, Nick (AUS)
31 DAVIDOVICH FOKINA, Alejandro (ESP)
32 SHELTON, Ben (USA)
by ti-amieGENTLEMEN'S DOUBLES Seeding
1 KOOLHOF, Wesley (NED) and SKUPSKI, Neal (GBR)
2 DODIG, Ivan (CRO) and KRAJICEK, Austin (USA)
3 RAM, Rajeev (USA) and SALISBURY, Joe (GBR)
4 NYS, Hugo (MON) and ZIELINSKI, Jan (POL)
5 GONZALEZ, Santiago (MEX) and ROGER-VASSELIN, Edouard (FRA)
6 BOPANNA, Rohan (IND) and EBDEN, Matthew (AUS)
7 AREVALO, Marcelo (ESA) and ROJER, Jean-Julien (NED)
8 MARTIN, Fabrice (FRA) and MIES, Andreas (GER)
9 MEKTIC, Nikola (CRO) and PAVIC, Mate (CRO)
10 KRAWIETZ, Kevin (GER) and PUETZ, Tim (GER)
11 GLASSPOOL, Lloyd (GBR) and MAHUT, Nicolas (FRA)
12 GILLE, Sander (BEL) and VLIEGEN, Joran (BEL)
13 MURRAY, Jamie (GBR) and VENUS, Michael (NZL)
14 GONZALEZ, Maximo (ARG) and MOLTENI, Andres (ARG)
15 GRANOLLERS, Marcel (ESP) and ZEBALLOS, Horacio (ARG)
16 MELO, Marcelo (BRA) and PEERS, John (AUS)
by ashkor87 Sinner is drawn against Cerundolo.. if he hasnt recovered from his adductor injury...upset in the making..
by ponchi101 Poll started.
Because Novak is such a prohibitive favorite, I have expanded the total possible votes TO ONE PLAYER to 4. You still get 6 votes to spread among a maximum of three choices.
by ti-amieGentlemen's Singles Draw
C. ALCARAZ 1 vs J. CHARDY
A. MULLER vs A. RINDERKNECH
J. KUBLER vs U. HUMBERT
M. CECCHINATO vs N. JARRY 25
A. ZVEREV 19 vs G. BROUWER Q
M. HUESLER vs Y. WATANUKI LL
M. BERRETTINI vs L. SONEGO
K. COPPEJANS Q vs A. DE MINAUR 15
F. TIAFOE 10 vs Y. WU
D. STRICKER Q vs A. POPYRIN
I. IVASHKA vs F. CORIA
S. SHIMABUKURO Q vs G. DIMITROV 21
A. DAVIDOVICH FOKINA 31 vs A. FILS WC
Z. ZHANG vs B. VAN DE ZANDSCHULP
M. ARNALDI Q vs R. CARBALLES BAENA
G. LOFFHAGEN WC vs H. RUNE 6
D. MEDVEDEV 3 vs A. FERY WC
A. MANNARINO vs A. SHEVCHENKO
M. GIRON vs H. DELLIEN
M. FUCSOVICS vs T. GRIEKSPOOR 28
F. CERUNDOLO 18 vs N. BORGES
J. LEHECKA vs S. OFNER WC
M. RAONIC vs D. NOVAK Q
S. MOCHIZUKI Q vs T. PAUL 16
C. NORRIE 12 vs T. MACHAC Q
C. EUBANKS vs T. MONTEIRO
C. O'CONNELL vs H. MEDJEDOVIC Q
J. VESELY vs S. KORDA 22
B. SHELTON 32 vs T. DANIEL LL
M. CRESSY vs L. DJERE
R. PENISTON WC vs A. MURRAY
D. THIEM vs S. TSITSIPAS 5
Bottom Half
J. SINNER 8 vs J. CERUNDOLO
M. KECMANOVIC vs D. SCHWARTZMAN
A. VUKIC vs D. ALTMAIER
Q. HALYS vs D. EVANS 27
Y. NISHIOKA 24 vs D. GALAN
D. KOEPFER vs O. OTTE Q
M. YMER vs A. MOLCAN
Y. HANFMANN vs T. FRITZ 9
B. CORIC 13 vs G. PELLA
B. BONZI vs H. MAYOT Q
C. MOUTET vs R. GASQUET
R. SAFIULLIN vs R. BAUTISTA AGUT 20
D. SHAPOVALOV 26 vs R. ALBOT Q
L. HARRIS vs G. BARRERE
L. BROADY WC vs C. LESTIENNE
L. LOKOLI Q vs C. RUUD 4
A. RUBLEV 7 vs M. PURCELL
L. VAN ASSCHE vs A. KARATSEV
S. BAEZ vs T. BARRIOS VERA Q
D. GOFFIN WC vs N. KYRGIOS 30
A. BUBLIK 23 vs M. MCDONALD
J. WOLF vs E. COUACAUD Q
M. MARTERER Q vs B. GOJO
F. KRAJINOVIC vs F. AUGER-ALIASSIME 11
L. MUSETTI 14 vs J. VARILLAS
J. ISNER vs J. MUNAR
J. CHOINSKI WC vs D. LAJOVIC
A. RAMOS-VINOLAS vs H. HURKACZ 17
T. ETCHEVERRY 29 vs B. ZAPATA MIRALLES
E. RUUSUVUORI vs S. WAWRINKA
J. THOMPSON vs B. NAKASHIMA
P. CACHIN vs N. DJOKOVIC 2
by JTContinental
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:25 pm
Sinner is drawn against Cerundolo.. if he hasnt recovered from his adductor injury...upset in the making..
Wrong Cerundolo...there are two in the draw (Fernando and Juan Manuel), so I'm guessing brothers?
by ponchi101 Meanwhile, somewhere in Belgrade:
"BWAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHA!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHA, cough, cough, BWHAHAHAHAH, cough, BWAHAHA; cough, damn, Goran, I just split a gut!!!!"
Maybe Hurkacz can give him a bit of a workout?
by JTContinental Biggest upset alert for me is Hanfmann over Fritz, who hasn't been very good on grass this year.
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:25 pm
Sinner is drawn against Cerundolo.. if he hasnt recovered from his adductor injury...upset in the making..
Wrong Cerundolo...there are two in the draw (Fernando and Juan Manuel), so I'm guessing brothers?
Guess right. Fran y JuanMa. Francisco is the top tanked Argentinean at the moment, and also top ranked Latin American.
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JTContinental wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:05 pm
Biggest upset alert for me is Hanfmann over Fritz, who hasn't been very good on grass this year.
Hanfmann just got me a lot of points for GA, but he just lost to Mannarino. And if you can be beaten by Mannarino, you can be beaten by anybody.
Still, I am with you, The way Fritz is playing, he will be glad he did not get any points last year.
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ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:04 pm
Meanwhile, somewhere in Belgrade:
"BWAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHA!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHA, cough, cough, BWHAHAHAHAH, cough, BWAHAHA; cough, damn, Goran, I just split a gut!!!!"
Maybe Hurkacz can give him a bit of a workout?
I think he's learning the steps (this is the original dance)
JTContinental wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:05 pm
Biggest upset alert for me is Hanfmann over Fritz, who hasn't been very good on grass this year.
Hanfmann just got me a lot of points for GA, but he just lost to Mannarino. And if you can be beaten by Mannarino, you can be beaten by anybody.
Still, I am with you, The way Fritz is playing, he will be glad he did not get any points last year.
Mannarino beat Fritz last week.
by ponchi101 I know. I have written about Mannarino before. He HAS TO BE the greatest overachiever in the history of the sport. With that game, he wins a lot.
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ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:42 pm
I know. I have written about Mannarino before. He HAS TO BE the greatest overachiever in the history of the sport. With that game, he wins a lot.
by dave g Does anyone know which half of the men's draw will play on Day 1? I think it is the top half, but I am not certain.
by ponchi101 I think that for the men's, it will be the bottom half because the defending champion opens Centre Court.
by jazzyg There is a weird discrimination against flat ball hitters like Mannarino. I do not consider him an overachiever. I consider him a player who would have had a much better career if more tournaments were played on grass, which favors flat ball hitters, and fewer were played on clay, which favors one-dimensional extreme western forehand grips.
He has been really good on grass his whole career, although he tends to struggle at Wimbledon because his game holds up better over three sets than five.
by ponchi101 I am not discriminating. I admire the man. We should all strive to play tennis like him: the compactness of the strokes, the precise movement, the control.
He never goes for a winner from a wrong position but, at the pro level, he is underpowered. That he reached a career high of 22 is a testament that this sport can be played by thinking, not just blasting the ball.
And sure. Had he been born in the 60's, he would have been a Pancho Segura: control, finesse, consistency. Although I don't know if with the faster grass of those days the results would have been the same.
by skatingfan Grand Slam Debut
Choinski, Jan, Great Britain (27)
Fery, Arthur, Great Britain (20)
Loffhagen, George, Great Britain (22)
Mochizuki, Shintaro, Japan (20)
Shimabukuro, Sho, Japan (25)
Wimbledon Debut
Arnaldi, Matteo, Italy (22)
Brouwer, Gijs, Netherlands (27)
Cachin, Pedro, Argentina (28)
Cerundolo, Juan Manuel, Argentina (21)
Coppejans, Kimmer, Belgium (29)
Eubanks, Christopher, United States of America (27)
Fils, Arthur, France (19)
Gojo, Borna, Croatia (25)
Lestienne, Constant, France (31)
Lokoli, Laurent, France (28)
Machac, Tomas, Czech Republic (22)
Mayot, Harold, France (21)
Medjedovic, Hamad, Serbia (19)
Müller, Alexandre, France (26)
Safiullin, Roman (25)
Shelton, Ben, United States of America (20)
Shevchenko, Alexander (22)
Stricker, Dominic, Switzerland (20)
Van Assche, Luca, France (19)
Varillas, Juan Pablo, Peru (27)
Vukic, Aleksandar, Australia (27)
Watanuki, Yosuke, Japan (25)
Wolf, J.J., United States of America (24)
Wu Yibing, People’s Republic of China (23)
by nelslus Krajinović has dropped out, so Mmoh has gotten in as a LL.
by ashkor87 Beretitni vs Sonego? Sonego has a good record against him but can he play on grass? Berettini's monster serve may be enough? I really don't know how good Sonego is- I guess we will soon know .
by ponchi101 Some people have taken Berrettini as a member of their YCWJ team. I say that is not a bad move.
It is not that Sonego may be better or worse, it is that Berrettini has been injured for too long and has played very little. Sure, he has a better serve but, right now, stroke by stroke, who do you take? And I say Sonego is a better mover at the moment.
On the modern slow grass courts, Berrettini's serve counts for a bit of an advantage. But all other items point at Sonego.
by ti-amie SUN 02 JUL 2023 22:08 BST Nick Kyrgios Withdraws from Wimbledon 2023
2022 finalist forced to pull out of The Championships
Nick Kyrgios, last year's gentlemen's singles finalist, has been forced to withdraw from this year's Championships with a wrist injury.
In a post on his Instagram, the Australian wrote "I'm really sad to say that I have to withdraw from Wimbledon this year.
"I tried my hardest to be ready after my surgery and to be able to step on the Wimbledon courts again. During my comeback, I experienced some pain in my wrist during Mallorca.
"As a precaution I had it scanned and it came back showing a torn ligament in my wrist. I tried everything to be able to play and I am disappointed to say that I just didn’t have enough time to manage it before Wimbledon.
"I’ll be back, and as always, I appreciate the support from all my fans."
Kyrgios had been due to face wild card David Goffin on No.1 Court in the first round.
by ti-amie The Wimbledon site is still showing a LL
A. RUBLEV 7 vs M. PURCELL
L. VAN ASSCHE vs A. KARATSEV
S. BAEZ vs T. BARRIOS VERA Q D. GOFFIN WC vs LL
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by ashkor87 Kyrgios injury is not surprising...his forehand is so 'slappy', so wristy, it is guaranteed to happen sooner or later
by ponchi101 I felt the opposite. He was so loose, and his strokes are so elastic, that I felt he would not have these sort of injuries.
Monfils sustains your theory, though.
by skatingfan I think Kyrgios' lack of consistent training is what leads to these types of injuries.
by ti-amieTHE CHAMPIONSHIPS 2023
GENTLEMEN'S DOUBLES
KOOLHOF NED / SKUPSKI GBR [1] vs ALTMAIER GER / KARATSEV
HIJIKATA AUS / KUBLER AUS vs PAUL USA / TIAFOE USA (W)
ISNER USA / SOCK USA (W) vs PURCELL AUS / THOMPSON AUS
CASH GBR / JOHNSON GBR (W) vs GONZALEZ ARG / MOLTENI ARG [14]
MEKTIC CRO / PAVIC CRO [9] vs DEMOLINER BRA / MIDDELKOOP NED
BROADY GBR / O'MARA GBR (W) vs CABRAL POR / MATOS BRA
BEHAR URU / PAVLASEK CZE vs ANDREOZZI ARG / CERUNDOLO ARG
CHARDY FRA / HUMBERT FRA vs MARTIN FRA / MIES GER [8]
RAM USA / SALISBURY GBR [3] vs GRIEKSPOOR NED / STEVENS NED (A)
ESCOBAR ECU / NEDOVYESOV KAZ vs BOLELLI ITA / VAVASSORI ITA
EUBANKS USA / WOLF USA vs DOUMBIA FRA / REBOUL FRA
HAASE NED / OSWALD AUT vs MELO BRA / PEERS AUS [16]
GLASSPOOL GBR / MAHUT FRA [11] vs CRESSY USA / GOLUBEV KAZ
BARRIENTOS COL / BORGES POR vs RAMOS-VINOLAS ESP / ZAPATA MIRALLES ESP
FEARNLEY GBR / MONDAY GBR (W) vs GORANSSON SWE / MCLACHLAN JPN
DURAN ARG / ETCHEVERRY ARG vs BOPANNA IND / EBDEN AUS [6]
GONZALEZ MEX / ROGER-VASSELIN FRA[5] vs CORNEA ROU / LAJOVIC SRB
CACHIN ARG / HANFMANN GER vs SAMUEL GBR / THOMSON GBR (W)
CARBALLES BAENA ESP / GALAN COL vs BLUMBERG USA / RUUD NOR
CACIC SRB / REYES-VARELA MEX vs KRAWIETZ GER / PUETZ GER [10]
MURRAY GBR / VENUS NZL [13] vs OLIVETTI FRA / VEGA HERNANDEZ ESP
ERLER AUT / MIEDLER AUT vs HERBERT FRA / RINDERKNECH FRA
WU CHN / ZHANG CHN vs DAVIDOVICH FOKINA ESP / MANNARINO FRA
MCDONALD USA / SHELTON USA vs NYS MON / ZIELINSKI POL [4]
AREVALO ESA / ROJER NED [7] vs HUESLER SUI / NAKASHIMA USA
BAEZ ARG / PELLA ARG vs LAMMONS USA / WITHROW USA
ARNEODO MON / WEISSBORN AUT vs DELLIEN BOL / VARILLAS PER
DJERE SRB / O'CONNELL AUS vs GILLE BEL / VLIEGEN BEL [12]
GRANOLLERS ESP / ZEBALLOS ARG [15] vs CABAL COL / FARAH COL
TSITSIPAS GRE / TSITSIPAS GRE vs FILS FRA / VAN ASSCHE FRA
GALLOWAY USA / HARRIS RSA vs GIRON USA / VAN DE ZANDSCHULP NED
BUBLIK KAZ / SAVILLE AUS vs DODIG CRO / KRAJICEK USA [2]
by ashkor87 @ponchi101 do I detect a double entendre there in Tsitispas as 'clay court lover'?!
by ponchi101 No. Did not think about it that way. He simply likes clay more than other surfaces.
I wasn't making it weird or anything
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by Suliso Djokovic vs Sinner SF? Looks very likely right now.
by ponchi101 Sure. Galan played one hell of a match and still lost in three. I say that SF is at least 75% in. Specially in view that Sinner goes against Saffiulin.
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Isn't Frances top ten now, or was top ten?
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by Suliso About 60% chance of SF's being Djokovic vs Sinner and Alcaraz vs Tsitsipas.
by ponchi101 Why Tsitsipas? He goes against Medvedev next. H2H is 8-4 Daniil, and it is not as if Stefanos is more at ease on grass.
by jazzyg Tsitsipas has won four of the last seven against Medvedev, and I do think his game is more suited for grass than Medvedev's. Toss-up match.
by ponchi101 Toss up match, ok. I can go for that.
They have never played on grass, so that is an unknown. But I say that will be a very even match. I went with Tsitsipas today because I am counting on Daniil for the QF's, but that is my wishful thiking.
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ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:32 pm I went with Tsitsipas today because I am counting on Daniil for the QF's, but that is my wishful thiking.
Great pick
by ponchi101 Somewhere in the SP topics, somebody mentioned that 6 months ago it was impossible to believe that Eubanks would be a bandwagon in the SP. And then added, correctly, that we would also pick him early.
His BH passing shot to break Stefanos again was a sublime one hander; the stuff of dreams for us that hit that shot.
by Suliso Sabalenka showing no signs of being "psychologically damaged" from RG. I think Iga will have a tough time holding her off for #1.
by ponchi101 I know we are all for equality in this forum, but this is the MEN'S topic
by Suliso Oh, missed that
by ti-amie If I were betting I would've placed a very small wager on Eubanks today only because of those first three days where Stefanos played back to back to back long matches. He was bound to hit the proverbial wall at some point. I was surprised that no one talked about how that would affect his play.
Anyway Carlitos just took out Berrettini and will face Rune next.
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Rune's entire entourage stood up applauding before he closed out the match led by his mother. I thought it was bush league and Grigor did too. He just didn't have enough left to push back hard but he did delay the inevitable by a game.
He learned fast *within* this match. His approach totally changed after the first set and I think what he learned is going to help him win a ton more matches like this going forward
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