by skatingfan Been a while since I posted skating videos. Here are a few of this seasons best skates. Sorry but you might need VPN to watch these.

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by ti-amie So much to watch! Thanks. :)

by skatingfan Ilia Malinin became the first skater to land a quadruple Axel in a short program - hardest jump currently being performed in skating, and only performed by Malinin.


by Fastbackss All blocked as you predicted.
I could see the title and as soon as moused over it gave a video unavailable message

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Fastbackss wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:11 pm All blocked as you predicted.
I could see the title and as soon as moused over it gave a video unavailable message
Opera browser has a free built in VPN.

by ti-amie I meant to post this earlier.



Surya landed the backflip on one skate but I love his eff you I'm doing this anyway because even with the deduction I got this.

by skatingfan European Silver Medalist Aleksandr Selevko, Estonia

by skatingfan 5th Place Ice Dance Loicia Demougeut/Theo le Mercier, France

by skatingfan Gold Medalists Ice Dance Charlene Guignard/Marco Fabbri, Italy

by skatingfan 4th Place Ice Dance Evgeniia Lopareva/Geoffrey Brissaud, France

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skatingfan wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:42 pm 5th Place Ice Dance Loicia Demougeut/Theo le Mercier, France
Whenever I hear "Clair de Lune" now I have to stop myself from watching "Oceans 11".

I thought they were a bit generic? The spark that ice dancing needs wasn't there for me with them.

by ti-amie Russian teen Valieva disqualified in Olympic doping case, Canada likely to be upgraded to bronze
ROC set to be stripped of gold; Canadian team placed 4th at Winter Games in Beijing
The Associated Press · Posted: Jan 29, 2024 9:19 AM EST | Last Updated: 40 minutes ago

Canada should be upgraded to bronze after Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva was disqualified from the 2022 Olympics on Monday, almost two years after her doping case caused turmoil at the Beijing Games.

The verdict from the Court of Arbitration for Sport means the Russians are set to be stripped of the gold medal in figure skating's team event.

The United States finished second and is set to be named Olympic champion instead. Japan originally finished third and Canada placed fourth.


"The Canadian Olympic Committee applauds the ruling by (CAS) to disqualify Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva from the 2022 Beijing Olympic Winter Games," the COC said in a statement. "This decision demonstrates the importance of rigorous anti-doping measures in sport, and we recognize that this is another important case in the fight for clean sport and upholding the Olympic values.

"We believe today's decision is an important milestone in this years-long case. We once again congratulate the affected Team Canada athletes for their incredible performances two years ago, and their enduring strength of character during this long process."

Should the Canadians be elevated to third, it would mean a bronze medal for Roman Sadovsky, Madeline Schizas, Kristen Moore-Towers, Michael Marinaro, Vanessa James, Eric Radford, Piper Gilles and Paul Poirier.

The International Olympic Committee decided not to present any medals for the event in Beijing, where the 15-year-old Valieva was the star performer hours before her positive test for a banned heart medicine was revealed.

"Skate Canada applauds the decision made by the Court of Arbitration for Sport regarding Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva's doping violation during the 2022 Winter Olympic Games," the organization said in a statement Monday.

"This ruling underscores the significance of stringent anti-doping measures and the need for continuous vigilance in protecting the integrity of figure skating and all sports."

CAS said it upheld appeals led by the World Anti-Doping Agency, which asked the court to disqualify Valieva from the Olympics and ban her. A Russian sports tribunal had cleared her of any blame.

The CAS judges banned her for four years, through December 2025 — about seven weeks before the next Winter Olympics in Milan and Cortina d'Ampezzo, Italy.

The IOC is responsible for reallocating medals and its executive board is next scheduled to meet in March.

Canada finished fourth in the overall standings with 26 medals, one behind Germany. Norway was first with 37 medals and the Russian Olympic Committee was second with 32.

"We now anticipate the day when we can wholeheartedly celebrate these athletes, along with their peers from around the world," the U.S. Olympic body's CEO, Sarah Hirshland, said in a statement.

A message left with the Canadian Olympic Committee was not immediately returned.

The likely new Olympic champions are Evan Bates, Karen Chen, Nathan Chen, Madison Chock, Zachary Donohue, Brandon Frazier, Madison Hubbell, Alexa Knierim and Vincent Zhou.

Valieva's legal team said it is reviewing the CAS decision before deciding whether to appeal to the Swiss supreme court, lawyer Andrea Pinna said in a statement. Pinna, who is based in Paris, led the skater's defence at the appeal hearings in September and November.

Appeals to the Swiss supreme court can be made on narrow procedural grounds, not the merits of the case.

Valieva's lawyers had argued she was contaminated by traces of the trimetazidine medication they said her grandfather used.

"Having carefully considered all the evidence put before it," the court said in a statement, "the CAS panel concluded that Ms. Valieva was not able to establish, on the balance of probabilities and on the basis of the evidence before the Panel, that she had not committed the [doping violation] intentionally."

The judges decided that, according to Russian anti-doping rules, Valieva could not benefit from having been a minor at the time of the positive test.

There was "no basis under the rules to treat them any differently from an adult athlete," said the court, which did not publish its detailed verdict pending a review of confidentiality issues.

The case provoked legal chaos at the Olympics because Valieva's sample, taken six weeks earlier at the Russian national championships, was not notified by a laboratory in Sweden until hours after she competed in the team event on Feb. 7, 2022.

Intense scrutiny at 2022 Games

Valieva continued to skate at the Olympics after rulings by a Russian tribunal and a separate CAS panel did not hold her responsible as a minor.

The intense scrutiny on Valieva led to an error-filled skate in the individual event, where she had been favoured for gold but dropped to fourth place.

The drama continued when she left the ice. The reaction of her coach, Eteri Tutberidze, was fiercely criticized by skating experts and International Olympic Committee president Thomas Bach.

Bach said in Beijing one day later he had been "very, very disturbed" to watch the "tremendous coldness" of Valieva's entourage.

The case came to CAS to challenge a Russian anti-doping tribunal verdict in late 2022 that Valieva was not at fault. That ruling suggested disqualifying her only from the national championships and letting her keep her Olympic results and gold medal.

WADA asked CAS to impose a four-year ban and to disqualify Valieva from the Olympics. The International Skating Union requested a two-year ban and disqualification.

Valieva, who turns 18 in April, has not competed internationally since the Beijing Olympics.

Four days after the closing ceremony, Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, and five days after that, the International Skating Union banned Russian skaters from its events. That ban is still in place.

Since the Olympics, Valieva has skated on an expanded Russian national competition circuit and in various TV events and ice shows. She is no longer the near-unbeatable skater she appeared to be before the Beijing Olympics and has twice been beaten at the Russian nationals by younger skaters from the same training group under Tutberidze.

Although scores at nationals are often inflated, Valieva's 237.99 points — third at the Russia championships — would have been the best in the world by more than 10 points this season.

When an athlete 16 or younger tests positive for a banned substance, international rules require an investigation of their entourage. Both the Russian anti-doping body and WADA were expected to look into the case but neither has published any findings and there is no indication anyone else is facing anti-doping charges in the case.

With files from CBC Sports and The Canadian Press


https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/wint ... o%20bronze.

by ti-amie This scandal was one of the reasons I stopped watching figure skating for a while. I'm getting back into it now that more than glide, glide, jump, glide is the standard again.

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by skatingfan World Junior Figure Skating Championships are on this week in Taipei, Taiwan.

Olivia Flores/Luke Wang

by ti-amie Well this is something...


by skatingfan Some early season skating.

Ilia Malinin - Skate America - Short Program

by skatingfan Kevin Aymoz - Skate America - Free Skate


by skatingfan Alyssa Liu - Skate Canada - Short Program

Liu was US Women's Champion as a young teenager landing triple Axels, and quadruple Lutz. Then she lost all her jumps during the pandemic as she grew, but she made a come back, made the Olympic team in 2022, and won the bronze medal at Worlds. It was still a struggle, and she retired from skating after that season. in the spring she announced her comeback, and this was her first skate at a big competition as an adult.


by skatingfan Emilea Zingas/Vadym Kolesnik - Skate Canada - Free Dance

Highlighting some of the younger American ice dancers as the depth of the field is very impressive. This team is coached by Igor Shpilband, who was the coach of the coaches of the next two teams I'm going to highlight.


by skatingfan Caroline Green/Michael Parsons - NHK Trophy - Free Dance

This team is coached by Olympic & World Champion Charlie White, and his wife, Olympic & World Silver medalist Tanith Belbin, and Greg Zuerlein, who was a US medalist, and finished top 10 in the world.


by skatingfan Christina Carreira/Anthony Ponomarenko - NHK Trophy - Free Dance

This team is coached by Olympic & World Champion Scott Moir, Olympic Bronze medalist, and World Silver medalist Madison Hubbell, and her husband Adrian Diaz, an Olympian, Spanish Champion, and top 10 in the world. Anthony is the son of Olympic & World Champions Marina Klimova & Sergei Ponomarenko.


by skatingfan Amber Glenn - Grand Prix of France - Short Program


by skatingfan Evgeniia Lopareva/Geoffrey Brissaud - Skate Canada - Free Dance


by skatingfan Mikhail Shaidorov - Grand Prix of France - Free Skate

Highlighting this program because Mikhail landed the first ever jump combination with quadruple as the 2nd jump - Triple Axel + Quadruple Toeloop. It's the second jumping element, and the initial call of the element is wrong. Also, another skater coached by a former Olympic Champion - this time Alexei Urmanov.


by skatingfan Minerva Fabienne Hase/Nikita Volodin - Grand Prix of France - Free Skate


by skatingfan Piper Gilles/Paul Poirier - Skate Canada - Rhythm Dance


by skatingfan Ellie Kam/Danny O'Shea - NHK Trophy - Short Program


by skatingfan Yuma Kagiyama - NHK Trophy - Short Program


by skatingfan Kao Miura - NHK Trophy - Short Program


by skatingfan Yuna Aoki - NHK Trophy - Short Porgram


by skatingfan Mona Chiba - NHK Trophy - Free Skate


by skatingfan Kaori Sakamoto - NHK Trophy - Free Skate


by skatingfan Anastasiia Metelkina/Luka Berulava - NHK Trophy - Free Skate


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I need to start watching figure skating again.The Valieva situation turned me off.

I agree with some of the replies pointing out Kim Yuna, Daisuke, Michelle Kwan, Tara Lipinski were known for their artistry on the ice.

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by skatingfan Evgenia Shishkova and Vadim Naumov have been confirmed among the victims of the mid-air collision between a commercial airliner, and a military helicopter.


by skatingfan Among the dead also include a number of young skaters, their family members, and coaches who were returning from a training camp that occurred in Witchita after the US Championships. The skating community is in mourning for the loss of so many talented young people, and the adults that were helping to raise them.

by JTContinental Very tragic

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by JTContinental Dick Button also died today, so figure skating it taking hits

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Alysa/Ilia career trajectory as an example of what's expected for women vs men skaters

I hope I make myself understood and please bear with me. Also correct me if I'm wrong I've caught up with past events but I still only have been a committed fan since 2022.

I was thinking about how women vs men skaters are perceived and what's expected of them can very much be exemplified by these two skaters (also you can place almost any Russian junior and make the same example tbh) and it's incredible not everyone sees this.

As we all know, the age limit has been increased in the hopes of teaching sustainable technique and lengthening the careers of top skaters, notably top women.

Women are being (still now sadly) taught quads and ultra-c elements very young, when their bodies are not yet ready, in hopes of them peaking as young as possible and making a name for themselves. And everyone is impressed every time, talking about their age like that's and incredible feat (it is at any age, but younger it's actually easier, as we have seen, but harder to maintain), lately we've seen that discourse with the new Canadian Junior champion, with Russian junior nationals, with Sophie Joline von Felten, and with Mao Shimada.

Why do I bring Alysa into the comparison?

Well Alysa is about one year younger than Ilia. And by age 14 we had seen her land a quad, a triple Axel, both in the same program, become American champion and everyone was talking about the upcoming prodigy. And then at 16 she was burnt out and decided to retire. And it had become a usual path for many female skaters, bombard them with ultra-c elements, make a name for themselves, win one big title and then be to tired or injured to continue. (I'm very grateful she was able to challenge this pattern by resting and coming back with a different approach with better examples of a sustainable career)

In comparison, Ilia, despite always being around and winning nationals in the lower levels, he wasn't being bombarded by media, and wasn't as noticed around the same time (2020). As far as I read, he landed his first quads after the pandemic, and then it became the upwards trajectory that we all saw.

I also noticed not many men in the Junior Circuit are doing many quads, when in comparison the women's Junior Circuit is girl after girl trying a triple Axel (it might be an exaggeration but yk what I mean)

So we have two skaters of a similar age, both at some point called "the future of the sport" and vastly different trajectories, vastly different expectations, vastly different peaking times (although Alysa is peaking again and we love to see it), the major difference being their gender.

While quads are celebrated in 12-year-old girls, with boys they'd all rather wait. While 16-year-old girls (and everyone else) are anxiously waiting the opportunity to compete in the Senior Circuit, boys turn senior at 18/19.

I'm not sure how to end this, and maybe this has been discussed before in this sub. Again, correct me if I got any wrong info. I hope with the changes we're seeing this starts to change and we get great female skaters with strong technical content that keep it for years.

I think that's it🫶🏼

by skatingfan I would point out that the US had World & Olympic Champion Nathan Chen in the men's event as Malinin was coming up, and no one of a similar stature in the women's event so there was more attention on Liu.

by Owendonovan Lots of parallels to gymnastics. No boy is looked at before they're 18 and every 13 yo girl with promise is scrutinized to be the next big thing.