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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:15 pm
by ti-amie
Ever since he told Halep to tank a match so that Serena would be eliminated from a YEC back in the day I've felt this man is shady. I had forgotten about the Kerber situation.
I didn't like him coaching Naomi for the above reasons.
The Halep thing is why I became a fan of hers btw.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:05 pm
by ponchi101
Didn't know that he had encouraged Simona to do that. And, indeed, that is a line for me. There is no circumstance in which you tank a match that is acceptable to me. Not even a set.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:09 pm
by meganfernandez
ti-amie wrote:Ever since he told Halep to tank a match so that Serena would be eliminated from a YEC back in the day I've felt this man is shady. I had forgotten about the Kerber situation.
I didn't like him coaching Naomi for the above reasons.
The Halep thing is why I became a fan of hers btw.
Did Halep refuse to do it? Is that why you became a fan?
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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:26 pm
by ashkor87
Yes, Halep didn't do it...
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 7:44 pm
by ti-amie
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:09 pm
ti-amie wrote:Ever since he told Halep to tank a match so that Serena would be eliminated from a YEC back in the day I've felt this man is shady. I had forgotten about the Kerber situation.
I didn't like him coaching Naomi for the above reasons.
The Halep thing is why I became a fan of hers btw.
Did Halep refuse to do it? Is that why you became a fan?
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Halep didn't do it and that is why this doping thing is so frustrating.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:55 am
by ponchi101
Didn't do it, Serena advanced to the semis, and won that year.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:13 pm
by ashkor87
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:09 pm
by ti-amie
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 12:29 am
by skatingfan
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:09 pm
That kind of makes sense - there both a couple of assholes - might work out.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:37 am
by Oploskoffie
This is probably the logical place for this little nugget:
Emma Raducanu: British tennis star says 'provoking' questions have contributed to turnover of coaches
https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/67166854
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:53 am
by ashkor87
I guess a balance is needed..my music guru would never tolerate such questions from me, but I do encourage them from my own students (not music!) - if the coach obviously knows much more, maybe Emma should just listen...what do people here think?
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:14 pm
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:53 am
I guess a balance is needed..my music guru would never tolerate such questions from me, but I do encourage them from my own students (not music!) - if the coach obviously knows much more, maybe Emma should just listen...what do people here think?
Balance for sure. And lean toward listening to your extremely experienced coach. It should be a collaboration, and if that dynamic isn't there, then it won't work. But Emma has to be a cooperative collaborator. I have a hard time believing none of those great coaches were willing to listen to her enough.
Murray is like that to an extent. Gilbert said Murray always said, "Show me the evidence," as if science has gotten around to proving every element of tennis theory. That would infuriate me. The coaches are working with a lot of anecdotal evidence, as I'm sure Murray does in his own life as well.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:45 pm
by ti-amie
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:53 am
I guess a balance is needed..my music guru would never tolerate such questions from me, but I do encourage them from my own students (not music!) - if the coach obviously knows much more, maybe Emma should just listen...what do people here think?
I can't believe she's implying that she knows more than the people she's hired to coach her and saying they couldn't handle her "provoking questions" is the reason they left. Really? If she knows so much how come her results have been dismal to put it mildly? She's delusional if she really thinks like this.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:26 pm
by ponchi101
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:14 pm
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Balance for sure. And lean toward listening to your extremely experienced coach. It should be a collaboration, and if that dynamic isn't there, then it won't work. But Emma has to be a cooperative collaborator. I have a hard time believing none of those great coaches were willing to listen to her enough.
Murray is like that to an extent. Gilbert said Murray always said, "Show me the evidence," as if science has gotten around to proving every element of tennis theory. That would infuriate me. The coaches are working with a lot of anecdotal evidence, as I'm sure Murray does in his own life as well.
When Lendl started hitting his second serves more forcefully, the evidence was simple: he made the calculation that serving harder would lead to more DF's, but also to more points won on 2nd serves. Sometimes, some numerical evidence is there to be understood.
But she should then also look at some evidence. Like: you have had something like 8 coaches since you won the USO. And you are not playing well. Can't be them, Emma.
It has to cut both ways.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:23 am
by ti-amie
Christopher Clarey
@christophclarey
Arthur Fils, the French 19-year-old on a fast track, changes coaches. Will be coached by Sebastian Grosjean & two-time French Open champion Sergi Bruguera, who already have worked together with Richard Gasquet.
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