ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:12 pm
Why would the US gov had wanted Chavez to remain in power?
I don't know enough about the "in-the-moment" messaging at that moment in time, but they could have been hedging bets and this was an unofficial message that they're open to working with him. Could be that heating oil program for the US.I think there are just a lot of behind the scenes things happening at any time that may cause something like this. Obviously, maybe Carter was misled by Chavez' politics, but as a former President, I just can't imagine he was at liberty to be fully independent in a situation like this.
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:59 pm
by ti-amie
I read that he had also bucked the CIA re South Africa so he may have used up all his capital in that fight and had no hand to play when it came to Venezuela.
Geopolitics is a b**ch.
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 3:28 am
by dryrunguy
About Carter and Venezuela... At the time, there was also this thing called oil... If I remember correctly. I was just a kid, so I could be wrong.
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:43 pm
by ponchi101
Yes. But the democratic administrations of Venezuela never had any issues with selling oil to the USA, and doing business with them. Venezuela was, together with Colombia, the most Pro-USA country in the region, with no frictions and a long-term working relation with all the oil companies in the USA. At the time, the Venezuelan oil sector had opened thanks to the previous two admins (non-Chavez, of course) and all major oil companies had been working easily until Chavez came to power.
If oil had been a driving factor, getting rid of Chavez was the smart move.
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:55 pm
by Owendonovan
I recall Linda Lavin"s character Alice being an inspiration to me, as a boy, as the kind of person one would hope you could become. Women on television back in the 70's were more an inspiration to me than the men were.
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 1:42 am
by dryrunguy
It's not Linda, but I can't let this go by without noting...
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:41 am
by dryrunguy
Anita Bryant died. She was 84. Apparently it happened last month. But I didn't see it mentioned here.
Bye, Felicia...
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:06 am
by Fastbackss
The usage of the small font on here is...understated but powerful
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:09 pm
by ponchi101
And if Dry had chosen to use font 90, it would have been fine too.
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:43 pm
by JTContinental
David Lynch, director of Twin Peaks, Blue Velvet, and Mulholland Drive, has died at age 78. No cause of death was given, but he was suffering from emphysema after a lifetime of smoking.
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:48 pm
by JTContinental
Legendary sports announcer Bob Uecker has also died. He was 90 and suffering from lung cancer. I don't know him as a baseball announcer except by reputation, but I do remember him playing the dad in 80's sitcom Mr. Belvedere
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:15 pm
by Owendonovan
dryrunguy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:41 am
Anita Bryant died. She was 84. Apparently it happened last month. But I didn't see it mentioned here.
Bye, Felicia...
Not soon enough!!!
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:06 am
by ponchi101
JTContinental wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:43 pm
David Lynch, director of Twin Peaks, Blue Velvet, and Mulholland Drive, has died at age 78. No cause of death was given, but he was suffering from emphysema after a lifetime of smoking.
Plus The Elephant Man and Eraserhead.
A truly complex cinematography.
Re: In Memoriam
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:29 pm
by Oploskoffie
Michelle Trachtenberg, of ‘Gossip Girl’ and ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer,’ dead at 39