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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Cincinnati 8/13 - 8/20 2023

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Rybakina serving above 60% would be unbeatable!
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Sloane all fired up in her win over Garcia.. she is normally more passive - hit some monstrous forehands too.. hope this is the new avatar
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ashkor87 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:03 pm Rybakina serving above 60% would be unbeatable!
Right. Like Serena and Barty. She's not a great example of my larger point. I'm talking about the average Top 50 player who isn't investing enough time and attention on the serve. Even Iga's 2nd isn't that great. Attackable.
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Meddy is NOT normally intense. When he's happy with his game, he is relaxed and cool. Not a good sign.

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i really dont know what to make of these Cincy results..FAA beaten, Bencic out.. are they saving themselves for the USO or what? Maybe it is best to just ignore this tournament...
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meganfernandez wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:11 pm Meddy is NOT normally intense. When he's happy with his game, he is relaxed and cool. Not a good sign.

I just hate it when players abuse their rackets -- it is like musicians abusing their instruments.. they should regard them as sacred,not tools to be thrown about. If you dont respect your instruments, how will you succeed?
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meganfernandez wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:09 pm Even Iga's 2nd isn't that great. Attackable.
true.. it comes of over-reliance on spin, maybe?
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ashkor87 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:21 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:11 pm Meddy is NOT normally intense. When he's happy with his game, he is relaxed and cool. Not a good sign.

I just hate it when players abuse their rackets -- it is like musicians abusing their instruments.. they should regard them as sacred,not tools to be thrown about. If you dont respect your instruments, how will you succeed?
He needs one of these. I have one! It's called a Dammit Doll.
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ashkor87 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:22 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:09 pm Even Iga's 2nd isn't that great. Attackable.
true.. it comes of over-reliance on spin, maybe?
Possibly. I trust you on these matters. I'm not knowledgeable about technique.
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ashkor87 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:19 pm i really dont know what to make of these Cincy results..FAA beaten, Bencic out.. are they saving themselves for the USO or what? Maybe it is best to just ignore this tournament...
You have the theory that players "save themselves" for a future tournament. if that were correct, Felix has been saving himself for the USO for months now. He is not playing quality tennis at all.
Bencic is not in the same situation, but it is not as if she has been scorching the tour as of late. This was just a loss; not much to read there.
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meganfernandez wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:23 pm I trust you on these matters
now that is pressure!
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ponchi101 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:33 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:19 pm i really dont know what to make of these Cincy results..FAA beaten, Bencic out.. are they saving themselves for the USO or what? Maybe it is best to just ignore this tournament...
You have the theory that players "save themselves" for a future tournament. if that were correct, Felix has been saving himself for the USO for months now. He is not playing quality tennis at all.
Bencic is not in the same situation, but it is not as if she has been scorching the tour as of late. This was just a loss; not much to read there.
You can't save yourself and keep missing out on 1000 ranking points and $1 million in prize money ($454k in the women's case). That would be dumb and counterintuitive. Good luck winning the Open without a seeding.
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I wonder if Bencic is still feeling the twisted ankle
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ashkor87 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:16 pm I wonder if Bencic is still feeling the twisted ankle
Certainly a possibility. But she would need to play next week at The Land to get some court time. If she does not, it could be about two weeks of no competitive tennis when she gets to NYC.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Cincinnati 8/13 - 8/20 2023

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Sinner's out to Lajovic, a dangerous floater. By the way, plenty of players have done well in both Canada and Cincy, so this wasn't a foregone conclusion. But yeah, the conditions are different. Wonder if that's a factor or it's more a combination of fatigue and emotional letdown after Sinner's first 1000. Or just purely outplayed. On most days, Sinner should beat Lajovic, right? Not get straight-setted?

Iga steamrolled Collins 1 and 0. Only her third win in Cincy ever. Collins played her closely last week. Iga said she didn't even have a chance to practice in Cincy, which seems weird. She lost in Canada four days ago. Was her practice rained out?
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