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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 2:56 pm
by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 1:11 pm
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:56 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 5:54 am
Delighted that the ultimate aggressor Ostapenko beat the ultimate junk player SST..nothing against SST but the game will be destroyed if people like her consistently beat the more
positive players like Ostapenko..
Ostapenko positive? Surely you jest.
? Too deep for me...
Ostapenko's attitude on court is rarely "positive". She does get down on herself a lot.
I guess you meant "positive" in the sense that she will attack and try to destroy the ball. Owen was talking about something else.
(I guess)
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 3:20 pm
by ashkor87
I don't care if a player is negative about herself, I admire her if she is positive about trying to win the point ..I am not her psychiatrist, just her fan.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 3:25 pm
by ashkor87
Keys vs Swiatek. Swiatek won in Madrid...strangely enough, I feel Keys will do better against Iga on a slow court...30% Keys.
I still remember how I laughed when Davenport (her mentor) called her a future Wimbledon champion..she is possibly a future champion on a slower court...I always thought she would do better on clay than on grass, at RG than at W. Flushing Meadow has slowed down a bit lately, gives her a chance...
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 4:35 pm
by ashkor87
Coco vs QZ next...I don't see how Coco can win, with double digit dfs ..you can get away with that against lesser lights like Badosa but not against Qinwen...
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 7:05 pm
by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 3:25 pm
Keys vs Swiatek. Swiatek won in Madrid...strangely enough, I feel Keys will do better against Iga on a slow court...30% Keys.
I still remember how I laughed when Davenport (her mentor) called her a future Wimbledon champion..she is possibly a future champion on a slower court...I always thought she would do better on clay than on grass, at RG than at W. Flushing Meadow has slowed down a big lately, gives her a chance...
If Davenport, one of the worst movers ever tor each #1, could win W, Madison could too. She has the serve, the FH and the volleys. But she is one player with a huge standard deviation. She can play top 3 tennis one day, and top 100 the next.
That will always dim your chances over 7 matches.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 8:19 pm
by ti-amie
Tue, 14 May, 2024 (Day 9)
Center Court
Starts at 11:00 am
T. Fritz (11) Vs (8) G. Dimitrov
Not Before 1:00 PM
I. Swiatek (1) Vs M. Keys (18)
Followed By
A. Zverev (3) Vs N. Borges
Not Before 7:00 pm
S. Tsitsipas (6) Vs (9) A. de Minaur
Not Before 8:30 PM
C. Gauff (3) Vs Q. Zheng (7)
Grand Stand Arena
Starts at 11:00 am
A. Tabilo (29) Vs (16) K. Khachanov
Followed By
Z. Zhang Vs (Q) T. Monteiro
Followed By
N. Jarry (21) Vs (Q) A. Muller
Followed By
T. Paul (14) Vs (2) D. Medvedev
Pietrangeli
Starts at 11:00 am
S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori Vs (2) R. Bopanna/M. Ebden
Not Before 12:30 PM
C. Dolehide/D. Krawczyk (8) Vs G. Olmos/A. Panova
Followed By
L. Kichenok/LAT J. Ostapenko (6) Vs S. Errani/J. Paolini
Followed By
(7) H. Hurkacz Vs (17) S. Baez
Court 12
Starts at 14:00
M. Granollers/H. Zeballos (1) Vs R. Matos/A. Molteni
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 11:45 pm
by skatingfan
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 7:05 pm
If Davenport, one of the worst movers ever tor each #1, could win W, Madison could too. She has the serve, the FH and the volleys. But she is one player with a huge standard deviation. She can play top 3 tennis one day, and top 100 the next.
That will always dim your chances over 7 matches.
Keys problem is she can do that within a single match - last year's US Open semis for example.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 12:24 am
by ashkor87
Yes, she really should have won that one!
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 1:58 pm
by ashkor87
Vika really showing us why she is a double major champion, and Sakkari isnt - that was a masterful exhibition of serving and hitting.. didnt think Vika is this good on clay..
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 1:59 pm
by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 7:05 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 3:25 pm
Keys vs Swiatek. Swiatek won in Madrid...strangely enough, I feel Keys will do better against Iga on a slow court...30% Keys.
I still remember how I laughed when Davenport (her mentor) called her a future Wimbledon champion..she is possibly a future champion on a slower court...I always thought she would do better on clay than on grass, at RG than at W. Flushing Meadow has slowed down a big lately, gives her a chance...
If Davenport, one of the worst movers ever tor each #1, could win W, Madison could too. She has the serve, the FH and the volleys. But she is one player with a huge standard deviation. She can play top 3 tennis one day, and top 100 the next.
That will always dim your chances over 7 matches.
Davenport winning W was 25 years ago, and it was a suprise to me even then - I think Graf (whom she beat in the finals) was about to retire ..
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 3:40 pm
by ponchi101
That was the last match Graf played; she retired about two weeks later.
It was a surprise to everybody, and I always felt that Graf thought that if she could not beat Davenport on grass, the writing was on the wall.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 4:59 pm
by ashkor87
Coco - QZ match again involves a coach switching sides..Riba was Coco's coach...wonder how much it matters..probably not much ? It is not the coach who has to play..!
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:50 pm
by jazzyg
Davenport also lost in the Wimbledon final twice--once 9-7 in the third set to Venus--and twice in the semis. She was a fantastic grass court player.
If you were surprised she won there, you simply weren't paying attention.
Keys has struggled at Wimbledon, but she did reach the quarters twice and also has three grass titles. There's nothing strange about Davenport predicting Keys would win Wimbledon early in her career.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:12 pm
by JTContinental
jazzyg wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 6:50 pm
Davenport also lost in the Wimbledon final twice--once 9-7 in the third set to Venus--and twice in the semis. She was a fantastic grass court player.
If you were surprised she won there, you simply weren't paying attention.
Keys has struggled at Wimbledon, but she did reach the quarters twice and also has three grass titles. There's nothing strange about Davenport predicting Keys would win Wimbledon early in her career.
You don't really have to move all that well on grass if you play first strike tennis like Keys does and Davenport did.
Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Rome 5/7 - 5/19 2024
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:29 pm
by JTContinental
Zheng looked quite ordinary against Gauff today, especially in the second set