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Rublev righted himself in the doubles, but there is absolutely no excuse for losing to Lopez.

mick1303 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:41 am Rublev righted himself in the doubles, but there is absolutely no excuse for losing to Lopez.

Best of three format, Feli plays a style nobody sees anymore (a little serve and volley, mixed with, admittedly, a very good slice BH). Yes, surprising, but on the other hand, Rublev has regressed this year. He should have won (Rublev) but after a long year, he might be looking at that ticket to the Maldives and crash out.
On different news: Colombia eliminated the USA. Nicolas Mejia, #245 in the world, knocked out Tiafoe. Right after we said there were no more heroic performances in DC.

Players who were once very good can always find their game for one game, especially 3 sets..one of the fun things about this format...

That too. Jimmy Connors, 1991 USO. Found his game for two weeks, had a little luck, and it was legendary.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:48 pm Players who were once very good can always find their game for one game, especially 3 sets..one of the fun things about this format...

Feli was "very good" at providing viewing experience. But results-vise - nah. The guy has no forehand.

Once Davis Cup will be done, I will be ready to calculate weighted ranking. In addition to 2021 results, some old tournaments were added. Most notably - World Cup (USA-Australia matches that were held from 1970 to 1980). Also one non-critical but annoying error was fixed. It had to do with accounting for tournaments without ranking points and/or without title. Some new tournaments emerged (Laver Cup, NextGen, ATP cup) and existing calculation was counting them towards total number of tournaments for each player. Then this number was used as denominator in calculating rated ranking and share of tournaments won from all entered. And this lead to unjustly punishing the players who participated there. Now this error is fixed - separate counts are implemented.

mick1303 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:09 pm ...

Feli was "very good" at providing viewing experience. But results-vise - nah. The guy has no forehand.

I thought he had no BH.
He has 7 career titles and over 500 wins (501/475). That is not a shabby career in tennis.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:03 pm

mick1303 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:09 pm ...

Feli was "very good" at providing viewing experience. But results-vise - nah. The guy has no forehand.

I thought he had no BH.
He has 7 career titles and over 500 wins (501/475). That is not a shabby career in tennis.

Yes, he is not a challenger level player. But Rublev twice reached top 8 and played masters at only 24. Clearly Feli is levels below.

Sure, but that is the reason we have the Lucho Hornas, and Jaime Izagas, and Lori McNeil's of our sport. Every once in a while, they knock down a very good one.

I'm not saying he is a better player than Rublev, but a top 15 singles player in the world and top 10 in doubles (with a slam) qualifies as "very good" at least. He's also been on 5 winning Davis Cup teams.

mick1303 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:09 pm

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:48 pm Players who were once very good can always find their game for one game, especially 3 sets..one of the fun things about this format...

Feli was "very good" at providing viewing experience. But results-vise - nah. The guy has no forehand.

Won Queens not so long ago, if my memory serves...

Doubles has turned out to be crucial..GB and Croatia....when 1 out of 3 is doubles, it is bound to be more important than when it was 1 out of 5

It was the sole thing about the old format that was a bit odd. One doubles match meant it was not that important.
But now, it can be 1/3 of the points.

Would be interesting to count what share of ties was decided by doubles