Talk About Tennis 2.0

Every general and colonel that I've seen in the last 48 hours has said the same thing about SWIFT - you do not use that as sanction right now, it's a terrible strategic play. It's the nuclear option. You use that as your Plan A and you have no Plan B where sanctions are concerned.

I wanted to argue that this wouldn't have happened, that "someone" would've stopped it but...

Translated from French by Google

Kharkiv and Kiev metros tonight.
To be honest it breaks my heart so that'll be all for tonight

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:12 pm Russia will be limited to doing business in the four major currencies. Because they were doing business in the past in Rubles? They weren't, right?
And if you don't cut them from SWIFT, they can move all the money they want.

He means Russia's business in the 4 currencies will be limited not vice versa

JazzNU wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:27 pm Every general and colonel that I've seen in the last 48 hours has said the same thing about SWIFT - you do not use that as sanction right now, it's a terrible strategic play. It's the nuclear option. You use that as your Plan A and you have no Plan B where sanctions are concerned.

Two things:

1) F*** the American Petroleum Institute.

2) My heart aches for the people of Ukraine--and our own, Mick.

ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:52 pm

JazzNU wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:27 pm Every general and colonel that I've seen in the last 48 hours has said the same thing about SWIFT - you do not use that as sanction right now, it's a terrible strategic play. It's the nuclear option. You use that as your Plan A and you have no Plan B where sanctions are concerned.

They've mentioned that plenty. It's not a secret in the least. But it's the biggest sanction they can place on Russia, so using it immediately is not a strategically sound move. I haven't seen anyone downplaying Europe in particular's economic interests if that move were to occur.

You take that move now, and it doesn't work, the same people telling him to do it now who don't have to deal with the fallout of any of it if it doesn't work, are the same ones who will be criticizing the move as being too much, too fast.

FYI, there are a lot of people claiming to know more about what's going on than they actually do. Think of the meme the other day of the Covid Experts suddenly becoming Foreign Policy experts this week. This well known and respected CNN reporter that primarily does fact checking has composed a list of some trustworthy sources if you're looking for reliable information.

ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:32 pm

BP (it is not only the API) also diverted almost all of their operations in S. America and moved that capital to joint ventures with Russia.

I hesitate to post video because so much of it is doctored. I hope this is legit. He's a WSJ reporter based in Moscow.

Haven't seen specific sanctions from France, Germany, and Italy today, I'll post if I see them. The third post is additional information on one of the US sanctions effect.