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That's a lot for a non Slam winner.

If he's still playing in 6 or 7 years, Kyrgios will be hilarious, and lots of fun to watch during matches - all the time.
Once he matures (which, unfortunately, is not a sure thing), and gets rid of that huge chip on his shoulder (which, unfortunately, is not a sure thing), and learns more about people and about life (which, unfortunately, is not a sure thing), he'll be lots of fun.

He is 26 already, and I don't think that Nike will renew that contract once it expires. There is no need to have you signed up if you do not show on court. So once the money stops coming in, Kyrgios will have to decide whether he starts playing for real, for the love of the game, or if he had had enough.
So 6-7 years is very generous of you, although you correctly added the IF. He may be out sooner than that,

I was wondering if Kyrgios made a mistake opting for tennis. I think he's someone who would thrive in a team sport but in a sport like tennis he can't handle it mentally.

Well, he has long said that his first love is basketball...

Indeed, in the Laver Cup, he seemed to be a great team player.
Maybe he'll decide to just be a 'doubles specialist' - that's the closest to a team he'll get on a regular basis within tennis.

He talks about certain other players being positive influences and important assets to tennis; he says that tennis needs more personalities, etc. All of this more than suggests that he cares about tennis.
But the confusing irony is that he refuses to be a positive influence / asset to tennis himself.

I didn't know where to put this, so I thought I'd put it here. I just wanted to say that I really like the fact that the women's and men's tours have completely different dynamics. On the women's side so many are breaking through, winning slams or getting to semis or finals, even while unseeded. It makes doing the Suicide Pool a total crapshoot, but it's really fun to see how new faces handle the pressure, and even to see their games for the first time. And on the men's side, it's much more predictable, but you have this amazing story of the three best players of all time all duking it out to see who will end up on time. I love both dynamics and think it's just a great time to be a tennis fan.

Enjoy the second week of Wimbledon everyone.

Kevin

ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:11 pm I was wondering if Kyrgios made a mistake opting for tennis. I think he's someone who would thrive in a team sport but in a sport like tennis he can't handle it mentally.

He made a very good decision because it's the only one he was good enough to make it as a pro. As much as he loves basketball, there is no way he'd be playing tennis if he was good enough to make it as a pro even if it was just in Australia. Unless you count e-sports (I don't), tennis is it.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:12 pm He is 26 already, and I don't think that Nike will renew that contract once it expires. There is no need to have you signed up if you do not show on court. So once the money stops coming in, Kyrgios will have to decide whether he starts playing for real, for the love of the game, or if he had had enough.
So 6-7 years is very generous of you, although you correctly added the IF. He may be out sooner than that,

The money drying up? Hilarious. Do you know how much Nick makes in endorsements? They don't care if he's on court all the time, sometimes works for them because his brand is strong. Very, very strong. If you think he's become a pauper because he's barely played in the 18 months, definitely think again. He's been making more money recently, not less. Nike will most definitely be reupping their contract unless something monumentally changes. Nike is 100% on board with this version of Nick, he currently gets perks many other players don't get from Nike. If he leaves Nike, it'll be because someone outbid them.

How much does he make in endorsements? Nike, Yonex and what else?

Ok, I looked it up. He has endorsements with Nike, Yonex and Beats. Nothing more. That does not look to me as a player that companies are beating a path to sign up. Nike may keep him as the face of Australian tennis, but that is simply because there is nobody else. The moment a new Aussie male comes up, that will be a better bet, as Nick has proven that he is a two rounds player, at the slams. And if they keep him as the face of Nike Australia, that will command the corresponding salary, at best.
Hewitt was the face of Nike for a while, in Australia, and he was let go easily, after reaching #1 and winning two slams. He started losing, and taht was that. Nick offers them nothing if he does not show up to play. And since he isn't, get ready to see him wearing his Yonex generic clothes, which was what happened to Hewitt.

You're not looking very hard. Kyrgios has more endorsements than that, is making more than he ever has because he finally got new management and they are hitting it out the park.

My impression from many comments on here about different players specifically and in passing as some backhanded remark about a player's form is that too many here tie brand power with winning now.

Feel free to keep believing that how people on this forum feel is how most feel about Nick. But it's just not the case. We've seen it over and over again, people on this forum largely don't understand his appeal and just do not like him. I understand his appeal, I just find him trying at times, but I do get it.

Hewitt? Ha! Again, you're missing his appeal.

I have said it before, but I think it gets ignored because so many here just don't like him. In the "what happens after the Big 3" discussion, who will be the star? I've said in the past, the ATP found their star, he just doesn't win a ton and he's always a moment away from getting fined so he's hard to rely on. But he's lapping the ATP outside of the Big 4 in terms of star power. Big time. He's the only one who can get into the Oscar parties and sit courtside at an NBA game and book a late night spot without coming off a big win at the US Open or hitting up some other connection, he can do it on his own. But I expect this to be ignored yet again.

We here are tennis fans and we care a lot about players who win and rather little about those who can get into Oscar parties. That's just how it is.

Please enlighten me about his other endorsements, because I find nothing more.
Zverev: Adidas, Head, Richard Mille and now Rolex, Peugeot, Electronic Arts and Zegna
Medvedev: Lacoste, technifibre, BMW (The M series), Bovet and Tinkoff (Russian finances)
Rublev (the least known of this group); Nike, Head, Bulgari.

And when you make a search with the words NICK KYRGIOS LATE NIGHT SPOT, I found none. Nothing.
Now, before I am labeled a Nick hater, I have written here enough times that I root for him. The man is obviously a good person, as the several instances of good deeds he has made have been documented at TAT1.0 and here. But the narrative "Bad Boy = Big Endorsement" fails the test of time. Yes, Hewitt, who was huge in Australia, lost his endorsements when he stopped winning. Rios was swept aside the moment he also stopped winning. If you want big endorsements, and be a bad boy, you better win. And Nick has been 4-2 this year, 6-3 in 2020 (yes, pandemic) and 23-15 in 2019. He simply is not out there, playing.
Now, if the ATP has decided that he will be the face of the sport once the big four are gone, so be it. It is not as if I die for the other guys to be the next Roger/Rafa/Nole. But man, that is a huge bet with Nick.

@suliso, but that's hardly the point I'm making, is it?

@ponchi, I must be making it all up.

JazzNU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:37 pm @suliso, but that's hardly the point I'm making, is it?

Sure, but I'm not saying you're wrong either, am I?