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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:42 pm
by Suliso
Rune has now won three straight sets at 7-5...

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:21 pm
by ponchi101
With Rune in this one. The ball landed close enough to the line, and he just simply hit it back. And he did raise his hands in apology.
ashkor87 wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:06 am Yes, too many players hit loose balls, after the point is over. Even at the club level ..I have been hit several times, once in the eye, by a stray ball after the point was over- you drop your guard...quite dangerous ..Rune should have been defaulted..he missed, is that a virtue,? Djokovic did get defaulted...
Serious here. Do you believe Rune was trying to hit Sinner, on purpose?
And Djokovic. He hit a lines person, not his opponent. After the point, and game, were over, by carelessly hitting a ball. Which is written in the rules as a reason for default. Why is the concept of RULES so hard to understand?

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:22 pm
by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:42 pm Rune has now won three straight sets at 7-5...
Let's see how he recovers. That was a sloppy 2nd set.
(IF he recovers).

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:49 pm
by Suliso
So far he has recovered just fine, but of course only one break separating the two.

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:53 pm
by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:21 pm With Rune in this one. The ball landed close enough to the line, and he just simply hit it back. And he did raise his hands in apology.
ashkor87 wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:06 am Yes, too many players hit loose balls, after the point is over. Even at the club level ..I have been hit several times, once in the eye, by a stray ball after the point was over- you drop your guard...quite dangerous ..Rune should have been defaulted..he missed, is that a virtue,? Djokovic did get defaulted...
Serious here. Do you believe Rune was trying to hit Sinner, on purpose?
And Djokovic. He hit a lines person, not his opponent. After the point, and game, were over, by carelessly hitting a ball. Which is written in the rules as a reason for default. Why is the concept of RULES so hard to understand?
Why be so rude? Isn't there a civilized way of saying it?

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:23 pm
by ponchi101
Didn't mean to be rude. Sorry if it came across that way.
But, Djokovic broke the rules on that occasion. That is what puzzles me about your statement.

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:29 pm
by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:21 pm With Rune in this one. The ball landed close enough to the line, and he just simply hit it back. And he did raise his hands in apology.
He was a hothead for a good portion of that match, being antagonistic in general. Intentionally hit the ball at him? Maybe not, but recklessly hit the ball hard not caring where it landed? Definitely. And again, he did it twice.

And like today, he rocketed a ball into the crowd recklessly and then did it AGAIN a moment later.

That apology he gave was the definition of a joke. To say he didn't mean it and was just trying not to piss Carlos Bernardes off more than he already was is an understatement. He was a malcontent through most of the match and Carlos had to talk to him several times about not making things worse.

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:34 pm
by ponchi101
Well, that is one problem with not being consistent (the chair umpires). Today, even though it was indeed a crucial point of the match, he should have been given a point penalty. First ball out, warning, second ball out, point penalty.
Remember, ESPN cut from yesterday's match so I did not see any of it.
And he remains a strange kid. Today he was behaving well, doing nothing mayor (the incessant moping to his box is by now simply part of the package), and then he does the silly two-ball stunt.
You said it. He will be like Novak (in behavior, I am not saying he will reach the same records). One good thing here, another there, and then, boom!, a silly comment or action that deflates the balloon.

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About the tennis. A good match, except for that second to last game by Rune. Missing one smash in one game is one thing. Missing two, that was indeed sucky.

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:38 pm
by JazzNU
Thrilled to have picked wrong in this final. Glad Andrey finally got a Masters title. I wasn't sure it was going to happen for him at any point, but figured here or Paris Indoors were the most likely places for it to happen since they seem to be the ones with more outlying title holders and semi-finalists. Maybe this will free him up a bit more at future Masters tournaments and Grand Slams. He's so hard on himself during the match for such a affable guy off the court.

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:48 pm
by ti-amie









Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:22 pm
by ponchi101
My GF tells me that he thanked the crowd for being supportive, "despite of where I come from".
I don't think I will ever be a fan because the game is something that does not thrill me (still, much better than Medvedev's) but as a person, I would not mind one bit having a couple of beers with him.

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:11 pm
by ti-amie
ponchi101 wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:22 pm My GF tells me that he thanked the crowd for being supportive, "despite of where I come from".
I don't think I will ever be a fan because the game is something that does not thrill me (still, much better than Medvedev's) but as a person, I would not mind one bit having a couple of beers with him.
I thought I posted it here.

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"Being from country that I am and getting so much international support, it means a lot"

Russian Andrey Rublev, who has made his anti-war views clear, in the Monte Carlo trophy ceremony after winning the title.

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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:12 pm
by ti-amie

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:28 pm
by Deuce
As usual, heavy, heavy bias against Rune from those who *claim* to be 'tolerant', 'non-judgemental', etc.
It's so predictable.
The criticism is all packed up and ready to be unleashed - it's pre-determined. The kid could help an old lady to cross the street, and these people would find something to criticize about him.
Sigh...

Had Sinner done the exact same thing(s) as Rune, these same people who lambaste Rune at every opportunity wouldn't say a word.
The very definition of bias and prejudice...

Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/9 - 4/16 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:38 pm
by Owendonovan
Deuce wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:28 pm As usual, heavy, heavy bias against Rune from those who *claim* to be 'tolerant', 'non-judgemental', etc.
It's so predictable.
The criticism is all packed up and ready to be unleashed - it's pre-determined. The kid could help an old lady to cross the street, and these people would find something to criticize about him.
Sigh...

Had Sinner done the exact same thing(s) as Rune, these same people who lambaste Rune at every opportunity wouldn't say a word.
The very definition of bias and prejudice...
Like Rune behaving poorly?

But he didn't.