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Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:23 pm
by JazzNU
The upcoming crop is not all from Europe.
And no idea why you guys are talking about Ryder Cup as if it has a history of being seriously competitive. That's recent history, traditionally, the US flat out dominated the competition to the point that US vs. UK became US vs. Europe. Laver Cup can make similar changes if that becomes necessary.
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:38 pm
by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:19 pm
I see nothing here personally. I was expecting Zverev's hand to be left hanging or something based on that description.
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:39 pm
by ti-amie
I thought the look, the up and down one and then turning away was enough.
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:41 pm
by mick1303
I'm glad that sporting/competitive side of the event prevailed and team Europe did not donate matches.
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:46 pm
by ti-amie
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:36 pm
by Suliso
JazzNU wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:23 pm
The upcoming crop is not all from Europe.
Whom do you see as particularly promising from the rest of the World?
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:40 pm
by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:39 pm
I thought the look, the up and down one and then turning away was enough.
Really seemed like no big deal to me and given they were very warm at the net with each other yesterday, I have a hard time believing this barely there happening is anything.
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:54 pm
by JazzNU
Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:36 pm
Whom do you see as particularly promising from the rest of the World?
There are great juniors coming out of the US. The top junior right now is Chinese. There is a recent junior GS winner from Argentina that is starting to climb the rankings. Players that are already rising in the ATP include Sebastian, Frances, Cristian, Lloyd, Jensen and Brandon. SoonWoo Koon just won his first title today. I'm guessing there are several more.
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:00 pm
by Suliso
Yes, I know most of them. However, are the future Slam winners? I mean juniors aside about which too early to tell. I just don't see it...
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:24 pm
by JazzNU
Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:00 pm
Yes, I know most of them. However, are the future Slam winners? I mean juniors aside about which too early to tell. I just don't see it...
Future Slam winners? When did I say that? Is that how you view Casper?
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:25 pm
by Suliso
JazzNU wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:24 pm
Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:00 pm
Yes, I know most of them. However, are the future Slam winners? I mean juniors aside about which too early to tell. I just don't see it...
Future Slam winners? When did I say that? Is that how you view Casper?
No, not Casper. But don't you think you need some Slam winner caliber people to win Laver cup?
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:14 pm
by ti-amie
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:32 pm
by JazzNU
Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:25 pm
No, not Casper. But don't you think you need some Slam winner caliber people to win Laver cup?
Not sure exactly what you consider Slam winner caliber, but I'd say the group I listed includes a couple of those. A reminder that potentially you but certainly others on here were basically laughing at the idea of it when I was putting Matteo in that conversation several months ago. Now, not so much. The group I listed are young, some just starting in the ATP, give them a couple of years and yes, I think they'll make the Laver Cup more competitive.
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:56 pm
by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:14 pm
Don't know what mister Elsasser is saying. Opelka and Isner are the big servers. The rest of ROTW team do not rely on just one stroke. Shapo and FAA are not huge servers, Diego certainly isn't, Nick has a huge serve but there is more to his game.
Re: Laver Cup 9/24-9/26 2021
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:22 am
by dmforever
JazzNU wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:38 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:19 pm
I see nothing here personally. I was expecting Zverev's hand to be left hanging or something based on that description.
Since everyone here knows I'm the biggest Isner fan around, I think I just need to say that he won't shake Zverev's hand, but he'll sure as heck avidly and publicly support a president whom multiple women with stories at least as credible as Zverev's ex's said sexually assaulted them and who bragged about grabbing women by the you know what on live air. Hypocrite much, John?
Kevin