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Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:37 pm
by ti-amie

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:42 pm
by ti-amie
It's interesting what can happen when the judge doesn't hold up cue cards to the jury to let them know what verdict he expects isn't it?

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:20 pm
by JazzNU
Doesn't look like anything on this was posted yet.



Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:03 am
by ti-amie

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:04 am
by ti-amie
There is talk that the prosecutor in the Arbery case should run for governor of that state but if it has been gerrymandered by the GQP I don't know how that would work.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:40 am
by JazzNU
Federal hate crime charges pending. These assholes should be under the jail by the time this is over, which is exactly what they deserve.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:07 am
by dmforever
The DAs that never charged them until the video was released should also be in jail. The police who didn't arrest them should also be in jail.

I don't know how people like Mr. Arbery's parents can ever be sane again, even with this verdict. What a tough tough thing to have to live with for the rest of their lives. :(

And the kicker is that one of these murderers was actually the one who made the video. Otherwise, they probably never would have been charged.

Kevin

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:39 am
by skatingfan
dmforever wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:07 am The DAs that never charged them until the video was released should also be in jail. The police who didn't arrest them should also be in jail.

I don't know how people like Mr. Arbery's parents can ever be sane again, even with this verdict. What a tough tough thing to have to live with for the rest of their lives. :(

And the kicker is that one of these murderers was actually the one who made the video. Otherwise, they probably never would have been charged.

Kevin
The prosecutor is facing charges.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:50 pm
by Togtdyalttai
ti-amie wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:04 am There is talk that the prosecutor in the Arbery case should run for governor of that state but if it has been gerrymandered by the GQP I don't know how that would work.
Nah, Stacey Abrams is going to be the Democratic nominee in Georgia (unless the prosecutor is from another state). Gerrymandering has no effect on governor's races (doesn't matter how the state is divided up when it only matters how you do in the whole state), only state legislature and House of Representatives ones.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:59 pm
by mmmm8
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:01 pm
ti-amie wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:22 pm ...

Why does domestic violence always seem to be in the background of men who do things like this? If he was still behind bars five people would be alive.
Maybe because it is a escalating process? First you beat your wife, then your wife and kids, then you graduate to total strangers?
(I am not joking, but I obviously have no idea nor training nor qualifications to answer your question).
There is plenty of evidence that a history of domestic violence is the one clear predictor of someone committing gun violence.

I was just watching Jon Stewart's new show (The Problem with Jon Stewart, most of it is on YouTube HERE) yesterday on guns, and it laid out pretty clearly the limitations on collecting weapons from domestic violence perpetrators. Most states don't adhere to federal law about it and even in places that do, the police often have limitations on what they can do. Domestic violence situations are also the greatest cause of police deaths in the US.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:47 pm
by ti-amie





Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:53 pm
by ti-amie
Ms Kanefield who usually writes these very long tweet threads tucked this into one a day or two ago that I thought was compelling



Teri Kanefield
@Teri_Kanefield

I think part of the problem is how the civil rights movement was taught in school. It was taught as if the battle was won.

Thurgood Marshall, MLK, Jr. Susan B. Anthony and lots of others did the work. Now the work is done.

We have a liberal democracy. It's ours.

11/

People thought the slope would continue moving upward.

They thought they were in a boat and they didn't have to paddle.

The current of what was right would continue upward.

Here's the problem . . .

12/

The forces that created the confederacy never went away. They were shamed and went underground. But they've been pushing back, harder and harder.

Here I talked about shock is "pre-helpless" Arrow pointing rightwards then curving downwards

Suddenly the arrow started moving backward.

13/

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Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:03 pm
by ponchi101
If CRT is going to be accepted as a real social phenomena, and a real, workable theory, deciding such things in court will not help one bit.
It is a sociological idea, not a legal legal one. A such, it has to be proven not by a court, but by its proponents, using data and analysis.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:18 am
by Deuce
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Preganant Librarian Killed After Pulling Gun on Motorcyclist
(And there are 3 additional gun/shooting stories at the bottom of this article.)

Is there any other developed nation on the planet where stuff like this happens with alarming regularity?
In Canada - which is close enough to the USA to share a border - this kind of thing is absolutely unthinkable. We don't carry guns around with us everywhere. We don't have guns in our homes. Therefore, we also don't point guns at people, shoot people, or kill people. We don't view threatening people with guns as even a last resort - let alone shooting them. But too often in the USA, pulling a gun on someone seems to be a first response.

Here, the only people who kill others are the criminal element - and they mostly just kill each other (which is itself a sad phenomenon transplanted from the USA). We don't have neighbours killing each other or regular citizens shooting each other. Happily, this troubling behaviour is not part of our culture to any degree. But, amazingly and tragically (and pathetically), it's a regular occurrence in the USA, where people believe that it's part of their 'freedom' to pull a gun on others and even shoot them dead.
For shame.

Re: National, Regional and Local News

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:48 pm
by mmmm8
Actually, you do have guns n your homes, about 35 per one hundred people (still 4 times less than the US), the 5th highest rate among countries (behind US, Yemen, Serbia, and Montenegro.). You just don't tend to kill humans with them. It might be significantly more prevalent in remote regions with wildlife theats/hunting, but can't be just that, there aren't that many people living there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated ... by_country