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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:14 am
by ashkor87
This is very mean of me but..how to get to #1 without actually winning ...
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:21 am
by ashkor87
When I first saw Shnaider play, i said to myself :she is the second coming of Safina
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:52 pm
by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:14 am
This is very mean of me but..how to get to #1 without actually winning ...
Remember how we were recently saying that the rule that forbid Madison Keys to play in a 250 was dumb? Well, the rule was to avoid more players like Dinara getting to #1, by winning 100 250's.
So Dinara's formula may not work.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:28 pm
by JTContinental
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:21 am
When I first saw Shnaider play, i said to myself :she is the second coming of Safina
You think so? She seems like another mindless ball basher to me. They often hit the tour like a storm and fade once people are familiar with playing against them. Safina might have been a pusher, but she had a mind for tactics.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:53 pm
by JTContinental
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:52 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:14 am
This is very mean of me but..how to get to #1 without actually winning ...
Remember how we were recently saying that the rule that forbid Madison Keys to play in a 250 was dumb? Well, the rule was to avoid more players like Dinara getting to #1, by winning 100 250's.
So Dinara's formula may not work.
They should have named this rule after Anna Chakvetadze
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:03 pm
by Oploskoffie
ER, season 8, episode 2...
Raducanu discussing coaching job with Petchey
https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/articles/c0r5190l88do
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:51 pm
by ponchi101
Why would anyone take this job, without a hefty retainer to begin with, is beyond my grasp.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:49 pm
by ti-amie
Whatever
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:57 am
by Oploskoffie
Just read this on a Dutch news website:
Griekspoor splits with coach Xavier Malisse after ten days
"I quit our partnership right after Monte Carlo. We started in Marrakesh and that lasted about nine to ten days. It was a major let-down from my perspective. I expected more." Malisse had previously stated his intention of helping Griekspoor become a top-20 player. "If things disappoint then I have to make a choice, which I did pretty quickly. I'll be in Madrid without a coach, just my physio, and I'm perfectly fine with that. The most important person is here."
So yeah... That went well

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:42 pm
by dryrunguy
Griekspoor and Malisse were kind of a strange pairing though, weren't they? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? The overarchieving player turned coach takes on the underarchieving but talented pupil? This pairing flipped the axis.
But if Griekspoor wants to stick with this equation... What's Gulbis up to these days?
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:53 pm
by ponchi101
I had completely forgotten about Ernest.
Indeed, as you say. What could Xavier Malisse teach anybody? A massive talent that amounted to almost nothing.
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:55 pm
by ptmcmahon
Hard to say. Remember the best players don't always make best coaches and vice versa. A lot of the best coaches had neither talent nor ever had any results

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:14 pm
by Oploskoffie
dryrunguy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:42 pm
Griekspoor and Malisse were kind of a strange pairing though, weren't they? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? The overarchieving player turned coach takes on the underarchieving but talented pupil? This pairing flipped the axis.
But if Griekspoor wants to stick with this equation... What's Gulbis up to these days?
Gulbis
As for Griekspoor: I genuinely believe he has the talent to be top-25 at least, possibly even top-20, but dear lord he is yet another headcase. In a recently documentary it became painfully clear how he constantly and relentlessly keeps getting in his own way inside his head space. Like, seriously negative, counterproductive. You quickly get to the point where you think he needs a shrink and then they show him talking to his therapist, I mean...
For any coach, he seems like a lot to handle. His previous coach, former player Kristof Vliegen, also features prominently including the moment he can't handle it any more and calls time on their partnership, in no small part to keep their friendship intact. If I'm harsh, then Vliegen was too soft. But Raemon Sluiter, who is as laid-back as he is direct, also didn't work out. Maybe Tallon just needs (legal) happy pills...
Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:28 pm
by Oploskoffie
dryrunguy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:42 pm
What's Gulbis up to these days?
Couldn't help but look this up: president of the Latvian Tennis Union

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round
Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 2:51 pm
by Oploskoffie
Seemed like a good idea to some. Now it is over. What next - for both?
Djokovic and Murray split after six months
https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/articles/c3rpqd4zy01o