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Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:11 am
by Suliso
Nadal actually not #1. I thought he would be.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:55 pm
by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:11 am Nadal actually not #1. I thought he would be.
If you include a certain Czeck lady, no. But are you thinking of somebody else?

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:45 pm
by Suliso
Nadal is 56 weeks behind Federer in total weeks in the top 10.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:48 pm
by skatingfan
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:55 pm If you include a certain Czeck lady, no. But are you thinking of somebody else?
Federer

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:18 pm
by ponchi101
Ah, non-consecutive. Txs for that data.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:15 am
by 3mlm
Suliso wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:11 am Nadal actually not #1. I thought he would be.
I wasn't surprised. Federer was 20 when he first reached the top ten and 40 when he last dropped out. Nadal's only 36. He just needs to get back in the top 10 and stay there for 13 months (non-consecutive) to catch Federer. Not looking so easy for Nadal these days, though.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:32 pm
by Suliso
He'd have to start winning a lot again. Not in the top 100 in the race.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:01 pm
by ponchi101
It has been one injury after another. I don't see him being able to return to a full time schedule.
But he has few points to defend after RG (Only his Wimby semifinal, mostly).

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:13 pm
by Suliso
Right, but can he win RG again?

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:43 pm
by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:13 pm Right, but can he win RG again?
We have been waiting for a long time for him NOT to be able to win it.
But I don't think his chances have ever been lower than this year. We have to wait and see how he shows up at MC.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:58 pm
by Deuce
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:01 pm It has been one injury after another. I don't see him being able to return to a full time schedule.
But he has few points to defend after RG (Only his Wimby semifinal, mostly).
He got points from last year's Wimbledon :?:

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:13 am
by ponchi101
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:01 pm It has been one injury after another. I don't see him being able to return to a full time schedule.
But he has few points to defend after RG (Only his Wimby semifinal, mostly).
Corrected. As it was indeed pointed that he (and nobody else) got no points from last year's W.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:03 am
by ashkor87
I can't see anyone beating Alcaraz at RG this year...except maybe djokovic...trouble is, same for next 5 years!!

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 3:30 pm
by ponchi101
Ruud is a very good clay court player. We have to see what shape Nadal comes back in. Novak has done well there. Tsitsipas loves clay. Clay is the favorite surface of a lot of players.
Let's get a couple of clay tournaments in and then we can gauge it properly

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:54 pm
by ponchi101
We have had a little bit of a conversation about rankings. I decided to do a simple calculation: what is the frequency in which the higher ranked player beats the lower ranked player?

Just did the last 4 years. Higher ranked player wins first, lower ranked wins second, % of higher ranked wins third.
ATP
2019: 1603, 1007, 61.4%
2020: 803, 464, 63.3%
2021: 1563, 926, 62.7%
2022: 1686, 946, 64.1%

WTA
2019: 1571, 901, 63.6%
2020: 664, 391, 62.9%
2021: 1587, 860, 64.9%
2022: 1489, 880, 62.9%