Talk About Tennis 2.0

DAY 11 THURSDAY 7 JULY
COMPLETE

CENTRE COURT 1:30PM

LADIES' SINGLES - SEMI-FINALS
O. Jabeur (TUN) 3 v T. Maria (GER)
LADIES' SINGLES - SEMI-FINALS
E. Rybakina (KAZ) 17 v S. Halep (ROU) 16
MIXED DOUBLES - FINAL
M. Ebden (AUS)/S. Stosur (AUS) v N. Skupski (GBR) 2/D. Krawczyk (USA) 2

NO.1 COURT 1:00PM

GENTLEMEN'S DOUBLES - SEMI-FINALS
R. Ram (USA) 1/ J. Salisbury (GBR) 1 v M. Ebden (AUS) 14/M. Purcell (AUS) 14
NOT BEFORE: 2:30PM
GENTLEMEN'S DOUBLES - SEMI-FINALS
J. Cabal (COL) 6/R. Farah (COL) 6 v N. Mektic (CRO) 2/M. Pavic (CRO) 2

GENTLEMEN'S INVITATION DOUBLES - ROUND ROBIN
J. Blake (USA)/D. Nestor (CAN) v A. Clement (FRA)/M. Llodra (FRA)

NO.2 COURT 11:00AM

LADIES' INVITATION DOUBLES - ROUND ROBIN
J. Jankovic (SRB)/A. Radwanska (POL) v C. Dellacqua (AUS)/A. Molik (AUS)
GIRLS' SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
L. Hovde (USA) 1 v E. Seidel (GER)

NOT BEFORE: 2:30PM
INVITATION MIXED DOUBLES - ROUND ROBIN
G. Ivanisevic (CRO)/M. Pierce (FRA) v N. Zimonjic (SRB)/M. Bartoli (FRA)

NO.3 COURT 11:00AM

LADIES' INVITATION DOUBLES - ROUND ROBIN
N. Dechy (FRA)/B. Schett (AUT) v V. King (USA)/Y. Shvedova (KAZ)

GIRLS' SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
J. Conway (GBR) v L. Klimovicova (CZE) 16
BOYS' DOUBLES - QUARTER-FINALS
M. Landaluce (ESP) 7/P. Rodenas (ESP) 7 v G. Bailly (BEL) 4/J. Nicod (CZE) 4
GIRLS' DOUBLES - QUARTER-FINALS
N. Bartunkova (CZE) 1/C. Naef (SUI) 1 v H. Klugman (GBR)/H. Oluwadare (GBR)

COURT 12 11:00AM

BOYS' SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
K. Feldbausch (SUI) 6 v M. Poljicak (CRO) 3
GIRLS' SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
I. Kruger (RSA) v V. Mboko (CAN) 5
GIRLS' DOUBLES - QUARTER-FINALS
S. Ishii (JPN)/L. Tararudee (THA) v L. Ciric Bagaric (CRO) 3/N. Daubnerova (SVK) 3
BOYS' DOUBLES - QUARTER-FINALS
C. Wong (HKG)/M. Zheng (USA) v J. Mensik (CZE) 6/O. Pieczkowski (POL) 6

COURT 18 11:00AM

BOYS' SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
L. Tien (USA) v M. Landaluce (ESP) 10
GIRLS' SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
L. Udvardy (HUN) 7 v N. Bartunkova (CZE) 3
BOYS' DOUBLES - QUARTER-FINALS
E. Butvilas (LTU) 1/M. Poljicak (CRO) 1 v G. Debru (FRA) 5/P. Inchauspe (FRA) 5
GIRLS' DOUBLES - QUARTER-FINALS
L. Klimovicova (CZE)/D. Salkova (CZE) v R. Nijkamp (NED)/A. Okutoyi (KEN)

COURT 4 11:00AM

GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
I. Britton (GBR) v V. Sekerkova (CZE) 2
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
S. Larraya Guidi (ARG) v N. Okhtenberg (USA) 4
BOYS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
I. Ivanov (BUL) 1 v M Ceban (GBR) 8
BOYS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
M Heidlmair (AUT) 4 v S. Cho (KOR) 5
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
M. Badache (ALG) 8 v I. Britton (GBR)
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
N. Okhtenberg (USA) 4 v A. Ichioka (JPN)

COURT 5 11:00AM

GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
C. Vazquez (ARG) v M. Badache (ALG) 8
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
A. Ichioka (JPN) v S. Hetherington (FRA) 6
BOYS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
B Chelia (ARG) v L Lam (NMI)
BOYS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
M Alqurneg (JOR) v P Dietrich (BRA)
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
V. Sekerkova (CZE) 2 v C. Vazquez (ARG)
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
S. Hetherington (FRA) 6 v S. Larraya Guidi (ARG)

COURT 6 11:00AM

GIRLS' 14 &UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
M. Angel (MEX) v A. Tatu (ROU) 1
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
A. Jadhav (IND) v A. Soare (ROU) 5
BOYS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
M Todoran (ROU) 2 v K. Hance (USA) 7
BOYS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
C. Ngounoue (USA) 3 v J. Dembo (AUS) 6
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
A. Tatu (ROU) 1 v G. Guillen (AUS)
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
A. Soare (ROU) 5 v A. Das (NZL)

COURT 7 11:00AM

BOYS' SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
K. Ivanovski (MKD) v P. Rodenas (ESP)
BOYS' SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
M. Zheng (USA) v C. Wong (HKG)
BOYS' DOUBLES - QUARTER-FINALS
S. Gorzny (USA)/A. Michelsen (USA) v J. Loutit (NZL)/E. Winter (AUS)
GIRLS' DOUBLES - QUARTER-FINALS
K. Cross (CAN) 4/V. Mboko (CAN) 4 v K. Tomajkova (CZE) 8/N. Vargova (SVK) 8

COURT 8 11:00AM

GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
G. Guillen (AUS) v A. Loftus (GBR) 7
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
A. Das (NZL) v M. Stojsavljevic (GBR) 3
BOYS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
D Pagani (ARG) v A Missoum (MAR)
BOYS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
L Channon (GBR) v M Schtulmann (MEX)
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
A. Loftus (GBR) 7 v M. Angel (MEX)
GIRLS' 14&UNDER SINGLES - ROUND ROBIN
M. Stojsavljevic (GBR) 3 v A. Jadhav (IND)

COURT 14 11:00AM

GENTLEMEN'S WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
G. Reid (GBR) v A. Hewett (GBR) 2
LADIES' WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
L. Shuker (GBR) v M. Ohtani (JPN)
NOT BEFORE: 1:30PM
LADIES' WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
D. De Groot (NED) 1 v D. Mathewson (USA)
NOT BEFORE: 3:00PM
QUAD WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
A. Lapthorne (GBR) v H. Davidson (AUS)

COURT 15 11:00AM

GENTLEMEN'S WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
J. Gerard (BEL) v T. Oda (JPN)
LADIES' WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
A. Van Koot (NED) v J. Griffioen (NED)
NOT BEFORE: 1:30PM
QUAD WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
K. Sugeno (JPN) v S. Schroder (NED) 2
NOT BEFORE: 3:00PM
QUAD WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
D. Ramphadi (RSA) v D. Wagner (USA)

COURT 17 11:00AM

GENTLEMEN'S WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
S. Kunieda (JPN) 1 v T. Egberink (NED)
GENTLEMEN'S WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
G. Fernandez (ARG) v N. Peifer (FRA)
NOT BEFORE: 1:30PM
LADIES' WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
K. Montjane (RSA) v Y. Kamiji (JPN) 2
NOT BEFORE: 3:00PM
QUAD WHEELCHAIR SINGLES - QUARTER-FINALS
N. Vink (NED) 1 v Y. Silva (BRA)


TO BE ARRANGED 1
NOT BEFORE: 4:00PM
INVITATION MIXED DOUBLES - ROUND ROBIN
M. Bahrami (FRA)/C. Martinez (ESP) v T.A. Woodbridge (AUS)/C. Black (ZIM)
NOT BEFORE: 4:00PM
GENTLEMEN'S INVITATION DOUBLES - ROUND ROBIN
J. Marray (GBR)/F. Nielsen (DEN) v B. Bryan (USA)/M. Bryan (USA)

My predictions:

Jabeur over Marie
Halep over Rybakina

Does anyone know how the Under 14 tournament works? Do they play three set matches? I see that a lot of the kids are scheduled for two matches pretty close to each other. I also had no idea they were doing an Under 14.

I wouldn't mind an under 14 tournament.
If parents are not allowed in the stands. I can only wonder how they behave (the parents).

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:11 pm I wouldn't mind an under 14 tournament.
If parents are not allowed in the stands. I can only wonder how they behave (the parents).

I would love to see some of these matches too. I have watched a couple of the Juniors Girls matches and they were really awesome. The 14's though are not televised or at least I have not seen any of them. If a Juniors match is still going on after the regular matches are done I will put them on.

About two years ago, there was a tournament at the place I used to play. 12, 14, 16 and over categories. So, when did a real problem started? When one kid called one ball out, the parent of the other kid started yelling, called him a cheater and the other parent got all angry. They nearly came to blows; had to be separated by staff, and then be told to stop watching the match and calm down. Which only led to a second round of roughness because, of course, "nobody is going to tell me I cannot watch my kid play".
The two kids, on court, were looking at each other in disbelief.
That was what I was referring to. I wonder how Apostolos behaved during Stefanos' matches when he was a junior (and I would bet the soul I don't have he was there, coaching Stefanos, cheating the other kid).

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:29 pm About two years ago, there was a tournament at the place I used to play. 12, 14, 16 and over categories. So, when did a real problem started? When one kid called one ball out, the parent of the other kid started yelling, called him a cheater and the other parent got all angry. They nearly came to blows; had to be separated by staff, and then be told to stop watching the match and calm down. Which only led to a second round of roughness because, of course, "nobody is going to tell me I cannot watch my kid play".
The two kids, on court, were looking at each other in disbelief.
That was what I was referring to. I wonder how Apostolos behaved during Stefanos' matches when he was a junior (and I would bet the soul I don't have he was there, coaching Stefanos, cheating the other kid).

I'm Apostolos had a white board complete with x's and o's that he held up during young Stefanos' matches.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:29 pm About two years ago, there was a tournament at the place I used to play. 12, 14, 16 and over categories. So, when did a real problem started? When one kid called one ball out, the parent of the other kid started yelling, called him a cheater and the other parent got all angry. They nearly came to blows; had to be separated by staff, and then be told to stop watching the match and calm down. Which only led to a second round of roughness because, of course, "nobody is going to tell me I cannot watch my kid play".
The two kids, on court, were looking at each other in disbelief.
That was what I was referring to. I wonder how Apostolos behaved during Stefanos' matches when he was a junior (and I would bet the soul I don't have he was there, coaching Stefanos, cheating the other kid).

I of course have played in tournaments at the age of 12 and 14 and now at 16 and there are parents in the bleachers that are vocal, but I have never experienced anyone scream out that there kids opponent was cheating or the parents start fighting. I think if that happened with my mom and another parent, I first would be extremely shocked if my mom would do something like that but I think I also would be so embarrassed I don't know if I would be able to continue playing the match. Most of the matches I play and the tournaments I play in only get about 20 to 30 people watching the match. I think the most that ever watched a match I played in was around 50 people.

I guess I live in a country of hot-blooded, testosterone driven, societal norms.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:39 pm I guess I live in a country of hot-blooded, testosterone driven, societal norms.

I guess it happens here in the United States too, but I have never experienced it while on court. I don't mind a parent or someone shouting out for my opponent or cheering for my opponent. Heck my mom, grandpa, and my brothers do it for me. They aren't like obnoxious and do it like all throughout the match, but if I play a really good point they will say something to encourage me.

I thought about the Under 14's tournament here at Wimbledon and since it is in the Round Robin style of play they might play 1 set player to 8 games wins. I remember when I was little playing that way before. I am not certain that is what they are doing here as it might still be the best two out of three, but since it is listed as a Round Robin style tournament that is the first thing that popped into my head about the possible scoring.

A few years ago, I was playing a 16 or 17 year old kid in a tournament. The score was even, or close to it, when I checked the height of the net (because it seemed too high to me, as I hit pretty flat balls that usually clear the net by less than a foot - plus I've been playing the game for a long time, so I'm quite aware of the proper height of the net).
The net was found to be about an inch and a half too high, so they adjusted it to the proper height. The kid's (my opponent's) father got up and started yelling that I was a cheater, I had no right to have the net adjusted (to the PROPER height!), I'm trying to gain an unfair advantage, etc. And he went on and on about it.
And this is in mild mannered CANADA!

I didn't respond to the jerk at all. But the kid I was playing was hugely affected by his father's antics. At one point, when he was slightly ahead in the match, the kid stopped playing, went toward his chair, put his racquet in his bag, and was quitting - because he was so embarrassed about his father's behaviour. The kid was crying, for god's sake.
When I saw what the kid was doing, I went right over to him and said "You're not quitting this match. I'm not going to let you quit. Look, I'm the one who is expected to win this match. But you're beating me right now. Finish it off. Beat me. You're playing well enough to win this match. What your father is doing doesn't matter. Ignore him completely now. When you get home, tell him that you don't want him to come to your matches if he's going to behave like that. But for now, ignore him and concentrate on beating me."
Then I smiled and said "But I'm going to make you earn it!"

He continued playing. And in the end, he beat me. And he thanked me after the match for not allowing him to quit.

About Maria. It seems to me she is one of those players that slowly brings your game down. All the slice, the tricks, the "junk". She makes you hit so many shots that are unusual, that you can't hit your real shot.
A peculiar "winning ugly".
But she is in the Wimbledon semis. So it works, at least a little bit.

Here we go...

Maria is trying her hardest to make this 3rd set close. It looks like though that Ons is about to roll ons (on) into the final.

Also it looks like I am gonna miss the Halep and Rybakina match due to my own practice. Sometimes ya just have to sacrifice.