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JazzNU wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:44 am ^^ Not that it wasn't before, but officially a joke. Ortiz juiced for years and years and everyone knows it, but you let him in and not Bonds, the best player most anybody ever saw well before he was juicing? The Baseball Writers need to get over themselves, they're gonna get mocked for this one til the end of time.
I did not know that Ortiz was also involved with PED's. Txs.
That was the reason I stopped watching MLB. McGuire, Sosa, Bonds, Palmeiro, Clemens, A-Rod. It was so depressing that all these "greats" were really cheaters. This selection makes me even more hesitant to return to the sport.
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Yeah, but don't think they care that they are going to mocked sadly. With great power comes.. well great chance of abusing it.

That said, I'm not too torn up over Bonds and Clemens not being in. Just Ortiz should be on outside with em.
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Now they test more ardently for it, so instead they juice the balls and allow(ed) pitchers to use crazily sticky substances.

I saw a funny post somewhere - basically how the writers were ensuring that the HOF goes out of business
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What were they using as their argument for that? Is anyone going to think of going to the Hall of Fame, then decide not to because Bonds and Clemens aren't in? Other than maybe some die hard fans of the two.
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ptmcmahon wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:32 pm What were they using as their argument for that? Is anyone going to think of going to the Hall of Fame, then decide not to because Bonds and Clemens aren't in? Other than maybe some die hard fans of the two.
Baseball HOF is essentially a museum and it will no longer accurately capture the history of the sport. It's a joke now. It's been bad enough that Pete Rose is nowhere to be found in anyway there to explain who he was, but this will definitely make it take a hit. It's not diehards that have a problem with this, it's baseball fans in general which is who visits the HOF, they watched Bonds play pre-steroid era, there's no question on whether he belongs there.
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The Hall of Fame is more a way to honour individuals and their accomplishments and contributions to the game than it is a museum of baseball history.
That's why Rose, Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, Sosa, etc. aren't in it - because, though they did accomplish things in the game, they also very profoundly tarnished the game through their actions directly relating to their positions as players, coaches, etc.
So... was their overall contribution to baseball more negative or positive? If that question needs to be asked, they don't belong in the Hall of Fame.
I'm perfectly fine with the fact that these players are not in the Hall of Fame.
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This whole thing has been super strange.
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This is Eric Kay. Not the guy that comes to mind when "drug dealer" is mentioned in a story.

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^^ Remarkable how much the MLB owners misplayed their hand here. The MLB Players Union very clearly strengthened during the pandemic amidst the healthy about of BS the MLB owners were shoveling at them, especially when they were publicly claiming they were poor.
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