'23 RG Day 2 OoP & Discussion

[ti-amie]

Court PHILIPPE-CHATRIER

Women’s Singles
CZE KA.Pliskova (16) vs USA S.Stephens
UPCOMING
Men’s Singles
SRB N.Djokovic (3) vs USA A.Kovacevic
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
FRA C.Garcia (5) vs CHN X.Wang
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
ITA J.Sinner (8) vs FRA A.Muller

Court SUZANNE-LENGLEN

Men’s Singles
FRA B.Paire (W) vs GBR C.Norrie (14)
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
--- E.Avanesyan (L) vs SUI B.Bencic (12)
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
ESP C.Alcaraz (1) vs ITA F.Cobolli (Q)
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
CZE P.Kvitova (10) vs ITA E.Cocciaretto

Court SIMONNE-MATHIEU

Women’s Singles
USA K.Day (Q) vs FRA K.Mladenovic (W)
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
CAN F.Auger-Aliassime (10) vs ITA F.Fognini
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
UKR E.Svitolina vs ITA M.Trevisan (26)
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
FRA A.Fils (W) vs ESP A.Davidovich Fokina (29)

Court 14

Women’s Singles
EST K.Kanepi vs USA M.Keys (20)
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
SUI S.Wawrinka vs ESP A.Ramos-Vinolas
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
GER T.Maria vs BRA B.Haddad Maia (14)
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
FRA L.Van Assche vs ITA M.Cecchinato

Court 7

Men’s Singles
USA B.Nakashima vs CAN D.Shapovalov (26)
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
KAZ Y.Putintseva vs BEL M.Zanevska
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
SRB F.Krajinovic vs USA F.Tiafoe (12)
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
LAT J.Ostapenko (17) vs CZE T.Martincova

Court 6

Men’s Singles
--- I.Ivashka vs AUS A.De Minaur (18)
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
CZE M.Vondrousova vs USA A.Parks
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
AUT D.Thiem vs ARG P.Cachin
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
--- V.Kudermetova (11) vs SVK AK.Schmiedlova

Court 4

Women’s Singles
COL C.Osorio (L) vs ROU A.Bogdan
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
AUS C.O'Connell vs JPN T.Daniel
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
SRB H.Medjedovic (Q) vs USA M.Giron
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
JPN N.Hibino (L) vs GER AL.Friedsam

Court 5

Men’s Singles
CHN J.Shang (Q) vs PER JP.Varillas
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
CAN R.Marino vs --- D.Shnaider
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
USA P.Stearns vs CZE K.Siniakova
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
CHN Z.Zhang vs SRB D.Lajovic

Court 8

Women’s Singles
UKR D.Yastremska (Q) vs CRO D.Vekic (22)
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
AUS A.Popyrin vs --- A.Karatsev (Q)
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
ESP A.Bolsova (L) vs SVK K.Kucova
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
GER D.Altmaier vs SUI MA.Huesler

Court 9

Women’s Singles
--- A.Pavlyuchenkova vs CZE L.Fruhvirtova
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
GBR J.Draper vs ARG TM.Etcheverry
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
NED B.Van De Zandschulp (25) vs ARG TA.Tirante (Q)
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
--- A.Blinkova vs BEL Y.Bonaventure

Court 12

Women’s Singles
EST A.Kontaveit vs USA B.Pera
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
ESP R.Bautista Agut (19) vs CHN Y.Wu
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
CRO B.Coric (15) vs ARG F.Coria
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
--- E.Alexandrova (23) vs BUL V.Tomova

Court 13

Men’s Singles
ESP B.Zapata Miralles (32) vs ARG D.Schwartzman
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
--- V.Gracheva vs HUN D.Galfi
Men’s Singles
UPCOMING
CZE J.Lehecka vs GER JL.Struff (21)
Women’s Singles
UPCOMING
SUI S.Waltert (Q) vs USA E.Mandlik (Q)

[ponchi101]

Something is happening to FAA. I know that Fabio is as talented as the best. But for Felix to lose in three straight is also too little of an effort.
Clay may not be his best surface, but that was a lame score.
Is anything happening to him?

[Suliso]

I have a theory. A young guy with lots of talent and a stellar junior record joins the tour. Has lots of early success and soon enough becomes convinced that GS titles and even GS dominance is just around the corner. In most cases reality bites and he realises that someone is still better even when they play their best. Depression follows together with a lack of motivation.

Possible examples on men's tour: FAA, Shapovalov, Tsitsipas, Zverev

[mick1303]

I have a theory. A young with lots of talent and a stellar junior record joins the tour. Has lots of early success and soon enough becomes convinced that GS titles and even GS dominance is just around the corner. In most cases reality bites and he realises that someone is still better even when they play their best. Depression follows together with a lack of motivation.

Possible examples on men's tour: FAA, Shapovalov, Tsitsipas, Zverev

I do not think that Zverev belongs on this list. And Tsitsipas as well, come to think of it. Zverev had his early success a while ago - in 2017/18. He still was under-performing in slams. Then he lost his US Open final, which was a great opportunity missed. According to your theory he should've spiraled to depression right there, if not earlier. But next year he won Olympics and his second YEC. It does not add up. I still think that he is struggling with his post-injury form. Tsitsipas is a curious case - full of contradictions. But I can't paint him as being depressed. He maybe realized that he is not match for Alcaraz, which was not a pleasant thought. But then he may beat 99% of other players, so he is doing ok. Being top 5 is not a bad position.

[ponchi101]

Basically, you come into the tour with a set ceiling. No experience/time will keep moving your forward.
Dimitrov, Raonic and Kei?
The statistician in me says: you are right (@Suliso). I don't know if I would go all the way to "depression"; I would say "acceptance". You will get your MS500's, maybe a MS1000. "Slams are for others".

[Suliso]

I don't mean a clinical depression. Maybe resignation is a better word?

[ponchi101]

We are only dealing with semantics now
On the good news side: Svitolina takes Trevisan down. That a nice little streak right there. And she inherits Trevisan's seeding position.

[Suliso]

Svitolina is still in typical tennis player's prime years. Could be a top 20, maybe even top 10 player again if motivation is there.

[ponchi101]

Bencic unable to recover in time from that injury. And clay has never been her forte.
On to W.

[mick1303]

We are only dealing with semantics now
On the good news side: Svitolina takes Trevisan down. That a nice little streak right there. And she inherits Trevisan's seeding position.

I felt good about Svitolina-Trevisan and I was correct. Seeing as Svitolina in Strasbourg came through 3-setters, it looked as her fitness returned to normal (or close). And her initial losses on tour were looking to me as due mainly to the lack of fitness, because she was getting early leads and then fading. And with this problem being corrected now - it is overall level that matters. She has several tier I victories, YEC and couple of semis at slams. Way above Trevisan.

[ponchi101]

That was a very entertaining 3rd set between Cobolli and Alcaraz. Cobolli can walk away proud of final effort. When he had nothing else to lose, his game started to flow. May be better days ahead.

[Suliso]

Kudermetova not doing well recently.

[eusebius]

Apparently Felix was sick:

[JTContinental]

Kvitova out meekly in round 1. I think she is returning from injury, though.

[ponchi101]

But indeed a lousy score. Cochiaretto should not have given that score.
What was her injury? After all, she did really well in MIA.