'23 RG Doubles & Juniors Draws and Discussion

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Shocking that they would default someone for this! Even the wording of the rule says default is for something done violently or in anger ..this was neither !
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That picture of them giggling like mean girls...

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This video.

Yes the ballgirl was crying but the implication that there was blood was a bold faced lie. SST and Bouzkova should be disqualified from the tournament.

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If they did indeed claim there was blood, I agree they should also be disqualified.
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ponchi101 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:36 pm If they did indeed claim there was blood, I agree they should also be disqualified.
I hope you can see the video. The audio is very clear.
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I always have my laptop on SILENCE. Will do.
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ti-amie wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:19 pm That picture of them giggling like mean girls...

:x
A mean girl is as a mean girl does. They can't walk that picture back.

(sadly with a default so goes the money and points, what a waste)

Also, the ball girl is a wuss.
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Owendonovan wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:26 am
ti-amie wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:19 pm That picture of them giggling like mean girls...

:x
A mean girl is as a mean girl does. They can't walk that picture back.

(sadly with a default so goes the money and points, what a waste)

Also, the ball girl is a wuss.
I wonder why she broke down like that? Was this her first time getting hit and if so why was she working at a Slam?
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Sorribes Tormo defends herself against criticism following Kato default
Kato disqualified after accidentally striking ball girl with ball
Spaniard and doubles partner Bouzkova protested warning

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Mon 5 Jun 2023 22.30 BST

Sara Sorribes Tormo has defended herself against intense criticism following the controversial default of Miyu Kato from their French Open third-round doubles match on Sunday. Kato, meanwhile, has lodged an appeal against the default.

During the second set of the match in which the Spanish-Czech pair Sorribes Tormo and Marie Bouzkova were playing against Kato and Aldila Sutjiadi of Japan and Indonesia, Kato accidentally struck a ball girl with a ball, who burst into tears. Kato did not strike the ball in anger.

The umpire, Alexandre Juge, initially gave Kato and Sutjiadi a warning but Sorribes Tormo and Bouzkova protested. They pointed out that the ball girl was crying, suggested she was bleeding and one of the players stated: “This is default.” After some time, and the arrival of the supervisor, a tearful Kato was defaulted. The victors have since received significant criticism for their role in the decision.

“First of all, we were saying that the ball kid was crying because we were scared, because we were [saying]: ‘Oh, something happened,’” said Sorribes Tormo. “Then we were saying that the ball was direct because [the umpire] didn’t see the ball. All the rest [of] the decision was taken by the supervisor, and I think it’s not our thing or we haven’t done anything bad. That’s the only thing I’m going to say about this.”

After releasing a statement on Twitter, Kato returned to the court a day later, winning her mixed doubles quarter-final with her partner, Tim Puetz. From the beginning of the press conference, Kato was tearful, leading to the moderator briefly ushering her out of the room. When she returned, she told reporters in Japanese that she was appealing against the decision to the grand slam board.

Kato explained in Japanese that she had received ample support from players in the locker room. One supportive player was Alizé Cornet, who tweeted at Kato, pointedly stated that a lot of players were supporting her “except Marie and Sara obviously”.

After her own doubles match on Monday, Cornet was extremely critical: “Yesterday, what happened, we reached a peak of injustice,” she said in French. “Especially Kato! She almost apologises for living. To be disqualified for that … When I think about it, it makes me want to break everything. She was crying. I hate injustice. The referee really made a huge mistake. He was influenced by the other players. The tournament should apologise to Kato. They disqualified her! The strongest thing you can do.”


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This confirms that Bouzkova/SST did not see what happened.
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But (and I am not saying you or anybody is doing that).
if we excuse SST/Bouzkova for NOT SEEING WHAT HAPPENED, by that same logic Kato should not have been disqualified because there was no intent to hit the ball girl. If intentions come into scrutiny, then Kato is the first one whose intentions were nowhere near to what she ended up being punished for.

Also. What Owen said about the ball girl.
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Owendonovan wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:26 am
ti-amie wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:19 pm That picture of them giggling like mean girls...

:x
A mean girl is as a mean girl does. They can't walk that picture back.

(sadly with a default so goes the money and points, what a waste)

Also, the ball girl is a wuss.
Honestly, this behavior does not shock me from SST, who I lump in with all the players that are deliberately annoying on court like Trevisan and SIegemund, but it's kind of surprising from Bouzkova, who is a former winner of the WTA Sportsmanship Award and well-liked by most of the tour.
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Sorribes Tormo and Bouzkova lost their next match in straight sets.
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